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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2018 at 1:46 p.m.
Thread: ??????
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juice</b></div><div>a 3rd round pick would be the highest return you'd get on a Bracco or Leivo...and even that is pushing it.

Just adding them in to a trade and hoping it bridges a talent-gap is often what draws the ire of other fan bases</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>Leivo is a 2011 draft pick who still can't crack it. Bracco has more to do to prove he is anything more than a depth AHL player at this point.


You aren't getting a top 4 defenseman and a top 10 pick for that</div></div>

Not arguing this trade really, I just think Leivo hasn't played because of the depth in Toronto and it seemed like either Babs or Lou or both really didn't like this guy. I could see Dubas giving him his chance this year and i'm sure a lot of other teams would take a chance on him. Bracco certainly has alot of strides to make but this year but he's in good hands with Sheldon Keefe and the Marlies organisation which has seemed to be very productive in showing players what it takes to play at the next level, especially with young players like Bracco.

I'm not saying they have a ton of trade value i just think you have to consider what another team might think of a player or where they can see them fitting into their own lineup.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2018 at 3:16 p.m.
Thread: Payback is a B*tch!
I don't get why Isles fans are so bitter about JT leaving. What would he be staying for other than Barzal? his whole career he never had the line mates to play with, their D core is abysmal and they never got him a goalie who could stop a puck. Garth Snow is the reason for most of this and hes most likely the reason Tavares is gone. Lou can work some magic but i dont think it helped that he only had a month or whatever he had to convince JT to come back to the tire fire Garth left him with. If Islanders fans want someone to be pissed at it's Garth Snow not John Tavares, if anything be thankful you got Lou from the Leafs who almost immediately did what everyone on the Island wanted to do which was get rid of Garth Snow. Adding the Stanley Cup winning coach cant hurt either, at least they know that the future of the Islanders is in good hands.

Also why would Nylander want to go from a young cup contending team to a team that is going to be rebuilding the next 3-4 years
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2018 at 8:23 p.m.
Thread: Connor Murphy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NickC1988</b></div><div>Murphy would be a good player for Toronto, it's hard to judge the value of a stay at home D man because it's not about the points as much as the defensive positioning they provide.</div></div>

Agreed, that's why it would be hard to trade him for the flashy forward like Kapanen. Completely different players with different jobs. Kapanen can skate like the wind, kill penalties, plays all 200 feet of the ice, things like this will also increase a players value, like you said its not all about points and though Kapanen has the potential to produce offensively, he does alot of other things well and could probably play on any line for the Hawks. Murphy would fill the obvious role of the right handed stay at home D to play with Rielly or Gardiner for this year at least.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2018 at 3:26 p.m.
Thread: 19/20 Leafs Cup Run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Codyymd16</b></div><div>i didnt say theyd have trouble cracking the lineup, im just saying that having a veteren 4th line is big for a cup run. Beagle, Cullen, Lewis or Richards for the kings (i forget who played the 4th line) but all these team had veteran depth to win the cup. i dont remember a team that won the cup with rookies on the 4th line, correct me if im wrong please. im sure the leafs could find a way to bring someone in</div></div>

I agree completely, I think the Leafs may have some guys like Hyman or Ferland who could drop down and play that role which might mean guys like Grundstrom or Johnsson get bumped up to play with Tavares/Matthews/Kadri which might work and it might not. I think Babcock will be trying alot of different combinations to try and find chemistry between players. If they dont do that, l think they could definately add another veteran 4th liner at a decent price maybe someone like Joel Ward, Lance Bouma, Brad Richardson (just a few guys i'd like to see them sign) again as long as they can find a way to stay under the cap which could be difficult for them in the 2019/20 season.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2018 at 2:39 p.m.
Thread: 19/20 Leafs Cup Run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Your relying on too many young players to NHL ready in 1 year.
You might get 1 or 2 but 4 is not happening.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Codyymd16</b></div><div>my only problem with this team is that you got a lot of players that havent played a full NHL season, which is a big question mark, look at WSH 4th line, Beagle, DSP and Stephenson (i think). a strong veteran pair with a rookie, they were lights out</div></div>


IMO Johnsson, Grundstrom and Rosen will most likely make the team this year and will stay up with the big club for most of next year. Then by 19/20 they will all have a little more experience, as for Liljegren i don't see him having any trouble making the team in 19/20 after another full year with the Marlies.

About the 4th line i think the Leafs could add a veteran or two to give Max Jones and Bracco some more time to season in the minors. A guy like Josh Jooris who they just signed, or someone similar who can add experience and depth but also at a realistic price as the Leafs are gonna struggle to stay under the cap in 19/20. Which is one of the reasons they might need to play these guys while they're on their ELC's.