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Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 10, 2018 at 11:32 p.m.
Thread: Vegas Golden Knights signed Colin Miller (4 Years / $3,875,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Just looking at analytics, sure. Maybe even a 3rd liner with 2nd line upside. Not sure Karlsson is a great example though because he just never really got a chance in CBJ and put up nearly as many goals last year as he had career points before the season. Looking at his last year with CBJ vs his first year with VEG:

TOI
CBJ - 13:23
VEG - 18:43

Shots
CBJ - 96
VEG - 184

S%
CBJ - 6.3%
VEG - 23.4%

oZS%
CBJ - 45.2
VEG - 51.6

FF% rel
CBJ: -4.3
VEG: 3.9

What the advanced stat story tells me: CBJ was using Karlsson in a more defensive role while VEG put him in a more offensive role. His TOI jumped over 5 minutes a game and nearly 500 for the season (compared to last year in CBJ). My guess is that Vegas asked him to think more offensively, thus his shot total nearly doubling and his oZS% increased by about 6% with Vegas. The biggest question I have is his S% going forward. 23.4% is a crazy shooting percentage and in prior years he was anywhere between 6% to 8% with CBJ. Now you plug in 8% with his SOG and he's got 15G (again huge swing).

I know what you're getting at, I just think Karlsson is a bad example because it looks more like a career year than anything.</div></div>

Hes a good example in the sense that the analytics said he's a checking 3rd line centre. His 6.3% shooting would indicate he's not an offensive player. Same with the shots taken etc etc. Your very likely right in VEG approach in asking his to play offence rather than a defensive role. His off zone starts weren't a dramatic change from columbus but but yes his shooting percentage was insane. Good shooters can hover around the 14% mark. Id peg him around the 10-11% mark. But when u look at his usage in Columbus, he was pegged as u said, a third liner with 2nd line upside.

Miller, it this NHL is a commodity that is semi rare. Right shot PP guy with capabilities to do so and continue to do so. He may improve based on his training regimen and team focus on how they use him. But i wouldn't disagree that he's a 3rd pairing. Was just trying to say he's worth the coin he's paid and its on par with what teams tend to offer for these type of guys and the loss, albeit, insignificant from your point of view, was still a tough loss in the sense that they got nothing for him and Subban
Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 10, 2018 at 9:26 a.m.
Thread: Vegas Golden Knights signed Colin Miller (4 Years / $3,875,000 AAV)
Analytics are apart of the storey and can tell you a lot about how a player played at a given time but it isn't the whole storey. There are so many factors that play into analytics that don't always tell a true storey. Was he confident, who were is defensive partners, were they confident, who were his line mates, etc etc. Sometimes a player plays differently than his skills due to outside factors. Why pass to that guy who's been shooting bad lately? Ill just make a play myself etc etc. Although analytics are a good tool, it isn't always the tell all. In this case, i havent done a lot of research on the guy, so i can't deny your statement but I do encourage and open mind to other factors outside of analytics. Look at Florida, high on analytical study. They trade and sign players by it. Hasn't worked well for them.
Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 3, 2018 at 10:42 p.m.
Thread: Carolina Hurricanes signed Calvin De Haan (4 Years / $4,550,000 AAV)
I don't get why everyone is surprised by some of these contract offers. De Haan is descent d man and in the prime years of his career. He's that last quality young dman available on UFA. With that being the case, I'm sure more than one team was making a pitch. For a free player that costs nothing to acquire, sometimes you pay them more to choose you. De Haan may have chose Carolina cuz the $$ were there. He doesnt care where he plays, he just maximized his salary return to the most peak point of his prime he will get. Now in regards to Carolina, cap space is something they have. You never know, Dundon could have said to make this deal. You can't factor that out. Also, as stated, they maybe looking to move someone like Faulk out. Either way, I don't see why he would take less when he was the last avail young quality D left in UFA.
Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 1, 2018 at 3:29 a.m.
Thread: Vegas Golden Knights signed Ryan Reaves (2 Years / $2,775,000 AAV)
He is a pretty unique player in his own regard. There aren't many of him left out there. They have be fazed out. Although i think that, I don't think that he's in the price range. Its not a lot but still surprised that 2 mill or less doesnt get er done.

I wonder about McPhee at times. He had a solid set up to be successful via the new expansion setup but how much was actually him and Gallant. Gallant is an excellent coach. Could they have been as good with a lesser skilled coach ? Hard to say. I doubt it.

When I saw that Tatar trade at the deadline, I shook my head. What a saving grace for Detroit getting outta that contract. Guy didnt even play much in the playoffs. Then letting Perron and Neal walk was a bit surprising as they seem to have a ton of cap space. Id have went after Perron and lower dollars, he's more bang for the buck.

Trading Forsberg for Erat was something else too. I thought he was just trying to save his job... but after Tatar i wonder if that was the case.