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Forum: GM GameJul. 27, 2017 at 12:45 p.m.
Thread: Unrestricted Free Agent discussion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bo53Horvat</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>My god we are making this as complicated as possible...Should of just had an open market without all these rules and regulations.

What's the point in signing KHL/INT players that will end up just playing in the KHL/INT forever? international bought out players, and even college players for that matter (Ones that weren't signed IRL I mean)</div></div>

Those types of players won't be eligible. Only players from other leagues that signed in the NHL.</div></div>

OK so only players who IRL are NHL'ers but not in our game are players we can sign?

Example,
Kevin Klein is <strong>not</strong> eligible to be signed?
Nathan Sucese is <strong>not </strong>eligible to be signed?
Alex Geogiev <strong>can</strong> be signed?
Spencer Foo <strong>can</strong> be signed?
Forum: GM GameJul. 27, 2017 at 5:35 a.m.
Thread: GM Game Master Thread
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Thornton_MVP</b></div><div>In regards to the undrafted free agents, IRL I believe you can sign them after the draft but it would not be fair to do that in our game since there were a few guys in the 2nd/3rd round that were undrafted by us. It would be stupid for everyone not to bid on these players as they are essentially a free 2nd round pick.

That's a valuable prospect and they can only get a entry level deal. With waiver priority being the tie breaker the bottom 5-6 teams are guaranteed a top prospect for nothing that not everyone has an oppurtunity to get.

IRL players like Myers, Hicketts, etc. were undrafted for a reason and had little to no value and a team took a risk using a contract spot on them that no one else was willing to do. A player like Volkov has obvious value that we all missed but now with hindsight we all would want him. Why should one team get him and not another?</div></div>

Agreed, and I'm one of the bottom teams. :p
They aren't in the FA plan document and I haven't seen a vote on them or anything, so hopefully they aren't on the list.
Forum: GM GameJul. 19, 2017 at 9:24 a.m.
Thread: GM Game Master Thread
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Icegirl</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>

What happened?</div></div>

Actually, you know what? I'm not gonna rage quit. I woke up furious, but it'd be very immature of me to make a scene because of that. (It's also a very impractical way to lose one's team.) But here's what I was mad about.

On Sunday, Whisper says "...and it's a deal" regarding a Matthews deal, and then he flip-flops after having said that. He says he'll hold onto Matthews for me, but Zach, apparently unaware that Whisper had said that, snatches him while I'm asleep. Thus, Whisper broke his promise to me twice.

And yesterday, Booth makes a Justin Schultz sweepstakes, and judging by his comments, I would've won it. But he pulls a fast one that stuns everyone but Werenski when he calls off the sweepstakes, again while I sleep. Why make a fake sweepstakes for Schultz when he had that Faulk deal in his back pocket?

I'm still steaming mad, but to ragequit over this would be unprofessional. Besides, I have free agency coming up... probably.</div></div>

Welcome to the GM game. Unfortunately it happens all the time. That's why I've started cutting the time I will spend on a negotiation down.
If I make a proposal you like and you are already in the middle of something, fine, I'll wait a bit for you to finish. If you run around trying to get more or start a bidding war, I'll probably drop out.

I <em>try</em> to negotiate in good faith, but have had to compromise a little so as not to put myself at too much of a disadvantage.
Not everyone does business the same way. I've missed out on quite a few players because it is typically a one-sided approach.

My advice is to just accept it for what it is. Not everyone has integrity and you'll learn which GM's are good to deal with and which ones you have to have a little/lot more patience with before you even pick up the phone and steel yourself for the negotiations.
Forum: GM GameJul. 11, 2017 at 11:17 a.m.
Thread: Unrestricted Free Agent discussion
I keep saying this is an unnecessary complication:
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quote:</div>3. Home team gets 10% discount of the best offer made. They can then match the discounted offer and keep their player, or let the opposing team get the played that was bid on at the original bid. Section 3 is a prerequisite for being able to get the 10% discount</div>

So are we going with open bidding?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quote:</div>FA Setup
1. Each team will publish an entire and complete list of the FAs that they wish to place bids on.</div>

So the teams that submit their lists the earliest are immediately going to be outbid. (for teams that go that route) :-/
Edit: Caught this later "2. See Ricochetti’s Spreadsheet for how to bid on players privately***" That should probably be the first option.

The method of determining which players sign and when is flawed, imo.

I would say all players with bids on them after 24 hours are dealt with at once.
24 hour reprieve to deal with those players and sort out who goes where, then another 24 hour window.
Free agents would be figured out and signed every second day, giving people time to check into new targets in between.

I strongly disagree with sign and trades, <strong>unless</strong> it is a player who's rights have never been traded.
- Doesn't make sense for a free agent to agree to it
- Hurts your GM rep with free agents looking to sign in the future
- Encourages GM's to bid on players they have no intention of keeping just to stockpile

If a player's rights have never been traded, it can be treated as an <em>extension</em> and trade.

I think that's it. I'll let you know if I see anything else.
Forum: GM GameJul. 6, 2017 at 2:59 p.m.
Thread: Board of General Managers Official Thread
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DavidBooth7</b></div><div>Dear BOG,

It is with great displeasure that I announce that I will be forced to leave the GM Game as of tonight due to real life circumstances. It was a load of fun playing this game, but I must focus on my studies and avoid any distractions on the side, which is why I've decided to stop to playing abruptly. Besides, I am already hated by many GM's, so I guess I may be doing the game a favour by leaving. Thanks to all of you guys for being great to work with. I may be potentially interested in staying in some sort of administrative role in this game, and may return as an AGM in the future, but I feel as though it's best to call it quits for now. Again, it was fantastic to participate in this great game, but for now at least, I must say adieu</div></div>

Damn, gonna miss you buddy! Hope the circumstances are not threatening in anyway. Not sure if I read somewhere that its due to Studies? If so than I believe you are making the "smart" choice. That's a dad joke. :laugh

Take care buddy! Florida will gladly take you as an AGM when you decide to come back! Cheers!</div></div>

With that said, the liquidation of assets you are doing is clearly unfair and especially so for the person taking over for you in the future.

I ask the board to have all these trades reversed as they are clearly being done at a whim and not with the teams best interest at heart.
Forum: GM GameJul. 6, 2017 at 2:59 p.m.
Thread: GM Game - Pittsburgh Penguins
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>phillyjabroni</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Can someone explain to me what is going on?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DarylthePony</b></div><div>Booth why did you just trade all your stars for virtually nothing?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>plNHL</b></div><div>Okposo for Weise and Condra for really stop it please</div></div>

whats the issue with what Booth is doing?</div></div>

He's stacking other teams with high end talent for nothing. A new Pittsburgh GM will come and have nothing, I'm not looking to start a fight and I wish Booth farewell and hold nothing but respect for him, just these trades are for lack of a better word "unfair".
Forum: GM GameJun. 26, 2017 at 6:37 p.m.
Thread: GM Game - Chicago Blackhawks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Thornton_MVP</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>matt59</b></div><div>
The more I think about that the more it could work. Could you add forsling to the deal if I add a late round pick? Bjorkstrand is at worst 3rd line rn and could definitely be a 2nd or top line guy this year. And Savard is a top 4 RHD. I think we're pretty close on a deal here.</div></div>

I could add Forsling, but I'd like a 3rd back. I could give you back a pick so you essentially just move down a couple rounds. So it would be:
:blackhawks
Panarin
Forsling
Motte
2018 5th (CHI)

:bluejackets
Savard
Bjorkstrand
2018 3rd (ARI)</div></div>
I'm ok with this deal, want to make it official? I accept from my end.
Forum: GM GameJun. 16, 2017 at 6:24 p.m.
Thread: Unrestricted Free Agent discussion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>phillyjabroni</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>

Too subjective. No way to determine whether a player might want to relocate or not, so it's going to be a combination of best contract and owning the rights to a player.



I believe we discussed this before. I can't remember if it is against NHL rules to trade a newly signed free agent, so I'll have to look it up again.
It doesn't make sense for a player to be UFA and control where he signs, only to be traded by the team he just agreed to sign with.</div></div>

ah, but this is the GM Game and not IRL.</div></div>

For transaction rules, we generally follow NHL rules. We aren't going to suddenly start allowing teams to make trades that would be illegal IRL.
Forum: GM GameJun. 16, 2017 at 5:19 p.m.
Thread: Unrestricted Free Agent discussion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueNorth</b></div><div>Can we make it more like the real world where Winnipeg would have to offer at least a million more and Anaheim a million less than market value to get free agents to relocate?</div></div>

Too subjective. No way to determine whether a player might want to relocate or not, so it's going to be a combination of best contract and owning the rights to a player.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>phillyjabroni</b></div><div>Rico, I would like to address the ability to "sign and trade" UFAs.

Off of the top of my head, my idea would be that if you move UFA's within a week of signing them (or whatever the amount of days) then you can sign and trade. However, if you don't move them within that time, they are stuck on your roster until January 1st, 2018</div></div>

I believe we discussed this before. I can't remember if it is against NHL rules to trade a newly signed free agent, so I'll have to look it up again.
It doesn't make sense for a player to be UFA and control where he signs, only to be traded by the team he just agreed to sign with.