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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 2, 2022 at 1:40 a.m.
Thread: Cup Year1 Karl65
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>I just see zero guarantee Vrana comes back for sure, you never know with that sort of stuff. Zadina hurt, sure could come but to what 0 points in 9 games? I know he was drafted high but I would have to think his value is in the toilet. Just not enough value to me for the leading Norris candidate retained to $7.5 mil. Maybe San Jose retains $2.5 mil and gets a better piece in there and Arizona takes on $1.5 mil a year and get Zadina for it. Idk the Karlsson situation is a rare thing and tough to value.</div></div>
What sort of stuff? If you have some inside intel on Vrana the rest of us don’t please do tell. Otherwise, you’re probably off base.
Karlsson trade is tough to value, I agree.
I like your idea a lot about using Arizona as a third team.
Disagree with clicking on Zadina’s name, looking at the point total and coming to that conclusion.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 2, 2022 at 1:17 a.m.
Thread: Cup Year1 Karl65
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brady_t12</b></div><div>Useless Vrana lmao. Dude scores at will. When he’s back from the player assistance program, he’s going to be lighting the league up again.</div></div>
Thanks. I agree that Vrana will come back and still be a 25 goal scorer. Plus, tradable contract if Sharks want to flip him.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>That’s a whole lot of retention on the leading Norris candidate for…a useless Vrana, underperforming and hurt Zadina, a depth defenseman, 1 decent prospect and a 2nd.

How about no</div></div>
The idea was to creat flexibility for Sharks.
Vrana is quality and will be back.
Zadina got hurt blocking a shot and is soon to return… he’s not deceased lol. He won’t live up to draft status, but he’s 23, under control, and will still likely have a mostly useful NHL career, but needs new scenery.

I probably agree the offer could be improved. But disagree it’s as off base as you claim.
How would you improve the offer?
2nd to a 1st?
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 2, 2022 at 1:00 a.m.
Thread: Cup Year2 Pasta
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>No thanks on Erik Karlsson, Mike Grier isn't eating $20,000,000 on Karlsson. And we're not trading Vrana for Karlsson either.

Your UFA signings are way too low. none of them are remotely close to what they will actually get.

David Pastrnak 7 x $11,500,000.
Dylan Larkin 8 x $9,150,000
Tyler Bertuzzi is 100% gone and wont be resigned.
Alex Nedeljkovic is 100% gone, And won't be resigned.
Olli Maatta signing looks about right, Should Yzerman resign him.
Jorden Osterle won't be resigned.
Oskar Sundqvist will be more in the 3 x $3,000,000 range.
Adam Erne is gone, Doubtful he's resigned.</div></div>

Not that great or interesting of a take..
Read the description.. I said Larkin &amp; Pasta can get more.. but Yzerman said this is the way.
Oesterle was traded last deadline as an expiring throw in..
Disagree about Bert and Ned strongly..
And you’re actually off on Sundqvist market value..
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 21, 2022 at 1:29 a.m.
Thread: TKACHUK DUH
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>4 1st round picks? Where? There is only 1. Velano and Zadina are not 1st round picks, they are young players who have not remotely lived up to their draft pedigree. Vrana is a decent middle 6 player with some value but only has 2 years of term remaining and you are trading him to a team that will almost certainly do a full rebuild. His value to Calgary is not that high at all.

This is a bidding war, you cannot lowball an offer here. There will be teams interested in adding a 24 year old 100 point 2-way power forward. This will play out very similar to Eichel where the best offer wins. Detroit would not stand a chance out winning the auction without one of Edvinsson or Kasper involved</div></div>

I disagree with a lot…
Detroit absolutely has enough assets to complete a trade without Edvinsson and Kasper...
Veleno and Zadina are good, they are young, they are under control…
I feel like this is more than the Eichel trade… but that’s fine if you value Tuch and Krebs more
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27, 2022 at 2:33 p.m.
Forum: NHL TradesJul. 17, 2021 at 1:26 a.m.
Thread: (NYI/DET) - Leddy for Pánik & 2021 2nd round pick
Any chance Leddy is traded immediately after the expansion draft? Essentially another team buying a protected slot from Detroit? If Stevie flips Leddy for a 1st next week, he’s playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

Or maybe there’s a handshake agreement with Lou to send Leddy back to NYI at the deadline in exchange for a 2022 2nd?

Or maybe since Leddy would’ve led DET defenseman in scoring last season, he fills a need on LD while providing PP usefulness and a solid veteran pairing for Seider, before recouping that 2nd at next deadline.

Also, the 2nd that followed Panik from Washington for DET to take him basically follows him to NYI.

Or you could look at it as NYR paid DET a 2nd for a useful year of Marc Staal which they then flipped for a useful year of Nick Leddy.

NYI gets cap space and expansion draft relief while Detroit gets a player more useful to them than a bottom six/replacement level forward and a player it likely feels can be traded at next deadline to recoup the draft assets.

It’s a WIN/WIN for both teams.

Quit pretending Yzerman got fleeced.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 17, 2021 at 1:22 a.m.
Thread: LeDdY iS a CaP dUmP
Any chance Leddy is traded immediately after the expansion draft? Essentially another team buying a protected slot from Detroit? If Stevie flips Leddy for a 1st next week, he’s playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

Or maybe there’s a handshake agreement with Lou to send Leddy back to NYI at the deadline in exchange for a 2022 2nd?

Or maybe since Leddy would’ve led DET defenseman in scoring last season, he fills a need on LD while providing PP usefulness and a solid veteran pairing for Seider, before recouping that 2nd at next deadline.

Also, the 2nd that followed Panik from Washington for DET to take him basically follows him to NYI.

Or you could look at it as NYR paid DET a 2nd for a useful year of Marc Staal which they then flipped for a useful year of Nick Leddy.

NYI gets cap space and expansion draft relief while Detroit gets a player more useful to them than a bottom six/replacement level forward and a player it likely feels can be traded at next deadline to recoup the draft assets.

It’s a WIN/WIN for both teams.

Quit pretending Yzerman got fleeced.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 23, 2021 at 11:30 p.m.
Thread: Seattle Kraken - Feedback Would Be Appreciated
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>Is the protection list correct and who would Seattle choose?</div></div>

Yes your protection list is pretty spot on and potentially correct... Would be hard to give any pushback. Most are beginning to say Erne gets protected the way he’s played this year, 2nd half of season especially, but hard to say.

The first five forwards are obvious givens, then 2 out of Svech, Erne, Names, and Smith are basically all interchangeable... Kind of a toss up and whoever gets chosen it won’t be a big blow. But Hirose doesn’t really factor in at all. On D it’s a toss up between Cholowski and Lindstrom IMO. I lean toward keeping Lindstrom. It’d be nice if Seattle takes Panik, who could potentially be useful for filling out a team.

Well done on the whole draft tho, good job.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 23, 2021 at 11:13 p.m.