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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 29 at 11:47 a.m.
Thread: Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>We'd want a 24 2nd and a prospect for Henrique, why are we accepting a downgrade on that to add a LHD we don't have room for?</div></div>

What you want and what you get are two separate things. I think it's fine to quibble about who the second prospect is (I don't think Vukojevic is anything but maybe a Topias Vilen or Ethan Edwards is slightly more intriguing), but a 3rd rounder and a B prospect is a reasonable price for the kind of rental Henrique represents.

Also I think the Devils are the rare team that doesn't need to do retention either on him. but that's another question. They already have big salary outlays this season and probably wouldn't be squeamish about taking on a few million more that the Ducks are probably happy not to have to pay.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 29 at 11:44 a.m.
Thread: Trade Deadline
Feels like a slightly high price for Tanev, but I like both of these ideas conceptually. I'd maybe want to see some additional depth scoring come in. Or maybe Bahl, a conditional 1st (if we don't reach the conference finals it's a 1st this year-top 5 lottery protected-, if we do it's a 1st next year since this year's conveys to the Sharks) and a 2nd for Tanev and Markstrom (with a little retained - maybe a million).

I think getting Henrique to fill McLeod's minutes once Jack gets back, getting Tanev, as a high class rental, and taking a swing at the goalie for the Cup-contender team (likely next year) makes sense.

I would love a short term (2 year, around 4 AAV) extension with Tanev to get us through the next few years.

Long-term I see the D shaking out like:

Hamilton Siegs
Luke Marino
Tanev Nemec

with Casey eventually pairing well with Nemec I think as he grows into his own.

For what it's worth I think Miller has been extremely good in 3rd pair minutes and I would be thrilled to trade Bahl in the goalie upgrade package and just extend Miller short term as a 6th/7th D.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 16, 2023 at 4:16 p.m.
Thread: Getting the Gang Back for One Final Cup Run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Where's the first then, you e offered a 2nd, a 3rd, the goalie you don't want, and some depth forward.

Frankly, Anaheim either won't retain, or will retain minimal money on Gibson, claiming we don't have to retain on Henrique is missing the point that Anaheim would be on the hook for thee additional years of salary for Gibson, it's just not happening, and sure as **** not for this offer.

Either Gibson is still an elite goalie, and that's why you are trading for him, or he's not, and You're on here just trolling Anaheim fans.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Where's the first then, you e offered a 2nd, a 3rd, the goalie you don't want, and some depth forward.

Frankly, Anaheim either won't retain, or will retain minimal money on Gibson, claiming we don't have to retain on Henrique is missing the point that Anaheim would be on the hook for thee additional years of salary for Gibson, it's just not happening, and sure as **** not for this offer.

Either Gibson is still an elite goalie, and that's why you are trading for him, or he's not, and You're on here just trolling Anaheim fans.</div></div>

I wrote in the description what the two scenarios are. We don’t currently have our 1st guaranteed this year, if we had our first it would be in the deal. But no there’s definitely a third scenario besides the two at the end of your post: John Gibson is a good goalie, past his prime in which he was elite, who is a significant upgrade over what the Devils currently have (hence the draft picks)
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 15, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.
Thread: Getting the Gang Back for One Final Cup Run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>The retention is what makes Gibson not a cap dump</div></div>

Yeah, any less retention than 1.4 million to put him at around 5 million makes him an underwater asset. He wouldn't get anywhere in the ballpark of 4 yr/5 AAV on the open market after 3 years of sub .900 SV% and a grand total of 1.2 GSaX in the first 20 starts this year (22nd among all goalies). The value is that he is a perfectly fine, above average starting goalie. You're not trading a front-line, Vezina candidate starter.

The Ducks would also have to retain 2.9 million to send Henrique to literally any other team. Not having to retain that salary to send him to the Devils gets them halfway to the amount of retained money on Gibson right there.

Like I said I think a 1st or two 2nds is probably a best case scenario for Gibson. Maybe a B-minus prospect like Graeme Clarke or Nolan Foote they can dream on is also in there. I don't know.

Either way, it's unlikely they're going to be able to trade Gibson without retaining some of that money.