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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 28, 2022 at 8:10 a.m.

Thread: Why is everyone so hot on Chychrun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>My brother in Christ, 20 games of Ben Chiarot cost a 1st+3rd (Smilanic)+4th. Who is this mystical second pair dman that is a similar talent that you're able to acquire for a fraction of the cost?</div></div>

Everyone admits that Florida made a mistake. No one is paying that this year... Just like nobody is trading DeBrincat for as small a package as he got.

DeBrincat is better and more valuable than Chychrun IMO, so if I'm being nitpicky I argue that the packages I am seeing are double the value Chicago got for DeBrincat.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 28, 2022 at 8:36 a.m.

Thread: Why is everyone so hot on Chychrun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>Everyone admits that Florida made a mistake. No one is paying that this year... Just like nobody is trading DeBrincat for as small a package as he got.

DeBrincat is better and more valuable than Chychrun IMO, so if I'm being nitpicky I argue that the packages I am seeing are double the value Chicago got for DeBrincat.</div></div>

I agree with you, if you are going for Chychrun and the price is basically 2 1st's + then why not save those assets and go after Girard from the Avs who IMO is better and cost is reported as half as much.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 20, 2022 at 8:45 p.m.

Thread: Oilers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeypal</b></div><div>Let’s break this down. For a team to take Barrie and Foegele they need a 1st (both cap dumps). After that it’s Puli for Pionk (retained) and Gagner. Why would the Jets retain for 3 YEARS especially for only Puli who Edmonton was trying to move so much prior. Just not enough value for Pionk.</div></div>

Barrie isn't a cap dump, especially with Bouchard going into a contract year. If you were a GM, would you give Bouchard the reigns to the PP this year knowing the contract situation?

Is Foegele's performance that much worse than other third line (~2.75m) players?

That, and given this roster has $4m in dead cap, not sure that Edmonton couldn't find a better deal that helps them.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 20, 2022 at 8:57 p.m.

Thread: Oilers

The deal doesn't make a whole ton of sense for either side. Just kind of screws things up. Holland isn't one to throw around firsts especially to dump players that still play every night for us.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 20, 2022 at 8:55 p.m.

Thread: Oilers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeypal</b></div><div>Barrie is 100% in a cap dump in this market. Foegele is also a 4th liner making 2.75 in this market cap is impossible to move both of them are cap dumps.</div></div>

Yeah, I'm just going to say no, because the reasons listed above.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 17, 2022 at 2:19 p.m.

Thread: why would we not do this

Oilers = not interested

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 13, 2022 at 10:59 a.m.

Thread: making statistically the worst pair in pro hockey

They didn't allow a single High Danger Corsi event though despite 16.67% Offensive Zone Starts. So it depends on which statistics you're looking at.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGOct. 12, 2022 at 4:53 p.m.

Thread: Barrie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Black61</b></div><div>Hard bass by the habs we dont want barrie</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Burnout</b></div><div>Montreal. Does. Not. Need. Barrie. Full stop.</div></div>

this was made by a habs fan....

oilers have 0 interest in this trade from my stand point they are giving up the 2 best pieces..

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 12, 2022 at 12:58 p.m.

Thread: Habs 2023-24

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dom1422</b></div><div>Oh Barrie is absolutely a cap dump. A complete liability.</div></div>

his offense more than balances out for 4.5 mil cap space, and if he is a cap dump why would Edmonton move him to take on more 3 years of Armia? theres just no logic there, they can wait and move him as a rental (they wont because he still produces) if they really wanted to move him.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 12, 2022 at 12:53 p.m.

Thread: Habs 2023-24

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dom1422</b></div><div>50 point S who is a liability defensively. There’s a reason he only got 4.5 mill.. he’s not valuable. Ffs Chiarot just got 5 mill, Gudbranson got 4..</div></div>
The Oilers score more goals when Barrie is on the ice than the allow. He's not a liability.

Doesn't the fact Chiarot just got more money prove Barrie ISN'T a cap dump?

And you haven't listed a single equivalent player who is making less.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 12, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.

Thread: Habs 2023-24

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dom1422</b></div><div>Barrie is a cap dump.</div></div>

Please list all the other perennial 50 point RHD making less than Barrie's $4.5M. I'll wait.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 11, 2022 at 1:55 p.m.

Thread: Demers contract incoming Roster day two

I wouldn't be surprised if Demers got a 2-way deal. He hasn't made the team on merit but he's a decent insurance policy at least until Desharnais is healthy.

I don't think he's on the roster for day 2 though, he isn't a better option than Nemo or Broberg.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 7, 2022 at 1:21 p.m.

Thread: Or something like this

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Ummm left d is an organizational need???? Don't even have him on the roster and playing a lefty on the right side goes to show the right side is the weaker side internally which makes it kinda foolish to move a veteran right Shot for nothing. Sorry but train wreck is the most positive way to describe this attempt.</div></div>

He's a Leafs fan, clearly he doesn't know player values.

Edmonton declines both offers amid raucous laughter. :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 6, 2022 at 12:48 p.m.

Thread: Chychrun Trade Scenarios

Edmonton isn't giving up the equivalent of FOUR 1st round picks for an injury-prone offensive defenseman when they already have piles of LHD.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 6, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.

Thread: Benson expected ltir

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Fully agree with this. Broberg will be on the opening day roster for cap purposes and niemelainen will be sent down on paper but swapped with broberg on day 2. He's earned it over broberg at this point but shouldn't be seen as a disappointment broberg could end up just needing a little more time to get his legs under him no worries.</div></div>

That switch may happen but i think they will still give broberg a few games in the regular season before that happens. not saying it is right just what i feel will happen.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 4, 2022 at 3:38 p.m.

Thread: Girard to Edmonton

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>Lol don't be silly. The prospect with ONE game in the NHL doesn't have more value than a 23 year old bonafide no.3 Dman locked in for 5 years at a good caphit.</div></div>
He's just not as good as you seem to think, and anyways Edmonton's not interested in being the high bidder. Not sure why this is so difficult for you.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 4, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.

Thread: Girard to Edmonton

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>Lol don't be silly. The prospect with ONE game in the NHL doesn't have more value than a 23 year old bonafide no.3 Dman locked in for 5 years at a good caphit.</div></div>
Jake Sanderson has ZERO games of NHL experience, why don't you ask for him + 1st + top-6 winger?

The number of games a prospect has played doesn't determine his value. Stop being ridiculous.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 4, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.

Thread: Girard to Edmonton

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>I don't think Colorado would trade Girard for Holloway + 1st alone, so Puljujarvi (or another piece) would bridge the remaining value.

I was also thinking that some money/roster player would have to go to Colorado in the deal, but most guys have either too big caphits or too much term, hence Puljujarvi made sense as an extra.</div></div>
Holloway has more value than Girard by himself. This is a really, really crazy valuation.

Plus, Edmonton doesn't need or want Girard, nor do they have enough cap space for him.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 3, 2022 at 3:25 p.m.

Thread: Best top 9 in the league

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>I'm guessing by the time the season gets going Holloway and nuge will swap spots. Hard to see a rookie command more ice time.</div></div>

With how insane the top 9 is, i can see them rolling all three lines for nearly dead even icetime

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 3, 2022 at 3:27 p.m.

Thread: Best top 9 in the league

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>I'm guessing by the time the season gets going Holloway and nuge will swap spots. Hard to see a rookie command more ice time.</div></div>
Nugent-Hopkins is a fixture on the PP, PK, OT, 6v5, etc. There's no way Holloway will get more ice time even if he's playing on the 2nd line at 5v5.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 29, 2022 at 7:45 p.m.

Thread: Chychrun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Babatunde</b></div><div>Coyotes don't even consider, no value in the trade. Package for Chychrun starts with Holloway</div></div>

This is a bad deal I agree but cmon ur not getting Holloway 💀

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 20, 2022 at 5:40 p.m.

Thread: habs trader

this makes Edmonton a worse team IMO. Barrie is a luxury and Drouin is a player the oilers dont need.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 19, 2022 at 7:15 a.m.

Thread: Drouin for Barrie

Barrie >>>>> Drouin

Edmonton declines.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 15, 2022 at 8:12 p.m.

Thread: Montreal Swap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DefenseFirst</b></div><div>He’s lost a step or two for sure. Leaving him only 25 steps ahead of Barrie defensively.</div></div>
LOL. Sad little man. The facts are that Montreal is better off defensively when Savard is on the bench... and that's his only (tenuous) claim to an NHL job. He's done.

Edmonton isn't interested.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 15, 2022 at 8:13 p.m.

Thread: Montreal Swap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DefenseFirst</b></div><div>This is where advanced starts hurt, more than they help. Theres a ton of variables missed with that. Watch one shift of both guys and its incredibly obvious savard is better defensively</div></div>
The Biggest Variable being Offense, which Barrie's more than makes up for his Defensive Weaknesses, can't say the same for Savard.

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