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Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 15, 2022
Published: Sep. 15, 2022
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Free Agent Signings
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2$1,250,000
Trades
EDM
  1. Evans, Jake
  2. Savard, David ($1,000,000 retained)
MTL
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Lavoie, Raphael
  3. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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21$82,500,000$81,889,333$896,000$2,200,000$610,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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LW, RW
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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NMC
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C, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 3
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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RD
UFA - 3
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M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
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UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
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Taxi Squad
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$850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, C, RW
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Sep. 15, 2022 at 6:02 p.m.
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The first is obviously enticing. Barrie is whatever. Lavoie is a bust

I think habs would accept as the would do
Savard with 1M retained for Barrie = take on a bit more salary but shed one year of term
Then it leaves Evans for a 1st which Habs would obviously take although I really like evans though
Sep. 15, 2022 at 6:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Lochness1202
The first is obviously enticing. Barrie is whatever. Lavoie is a bust

I think habs would accept as the would do
Savard with 1M retained for Barrie = take on a bit more salary but shed one year of term
Then it leaves Evans for a 1st which Habs would obviously take although I really like evans though

Barrie being not able to defend vs Savard being half decent defensively makes me think it could hurt MTL more than help.
Sep. 15, 2022 at 6:35 p.m.
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tears of joy

Edmonton declines hard. There's nothing there that Edmonton wants and CERTAINLY nothing worth a perennial 50 point defenseman and a 1st round pick.
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Sep. 15, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
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MTL is looking to add a veteran RD, not swap them
Sep. 15, 2022 at 7:34 p.m.
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Edited Sep. 15, 2022 at 7:40 p.m.
Quoting: MTL_stats
Barrie being not able to defend vs Savard being half decent defensively makes me think it could hurt MTL more than help.

I'm pretty sure that's what MTL wants, so they get 1st Overall and Win the Connor Bedard Sweepstakes.

Oilers wouldn't be interested in Savard, they'd want Joel Edmundson, but wouldn't be offering no 1st Round Pick. They'd go with Nikita Zaitsev before paying more for and taking on an extra year of David Savard. They would be interested in Evans, but likely for a couple B Prospects and/or Picks.

Barrie's a Stud Offensive D-Man & Power Play QB on a Team Friendly Contract who just needs a responsible Defensive Partner 5on5
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Sep. 15, 2022 at 7:37 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
I'm pretty sure that's what MTL wants, so they get 1st Overall and Win the Connor Bedard Sweepstakes.


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Sep. 15, 2022 at 7:46 p.m.
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Barrie being not able to defend vs Savard being half decent defensively makes me think it could hurt MTL more than help.


5v5 GA/60 last season
Barrie: 2.51 (-0.32 Rel) he gave up fewer than teammates (-)
Savard: 3.51 (+0.88 Rel) he gave up more (+)

5v5 xGA/60
Barrie: 2.56 (+0.06 Rel)
Savard: 3.08 (+0.35 Rel)

5v5 SCA/60
Barrie: 27.65 (-0.69 Rel)
Savard: 35.33 (+5.30 Rel)

5v5 HDCA/60
Barrie: 10.69 (-0.71 Rel)
Savard: 13.13 (+0.28 Rel)

5v5 Defensive Zone Starts/60
Barrie: 7.47
Savard: 7.96

Savard is much, much worse defensively than Barrie. Plus he brings no offense. He's done - keep him.
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Sep. 15, 2022 at 7:52 p.m.
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5v5 GA/60 last season
Barrie: 2.51 (-0.32 Rel) he gave up fewer than teammates (-)
Savard: 3.51 (+0.88 Rel) he gave up more (+)

5v5 xGA/60
Barrie: 2.56 (+0.06 Rel)
Savard: 3.08 (+0.35 Rel)

5v5 SCA/60
Barrie: 27.65 (-0.69 Rel)
Savard: 35.33 (+5.30 Rel)

5v5 HDCA/60
Barrie: 10.69 (-0.71 Rel)
Savard: 13.13 (+0.28 Rel)

5v5 Defensive Zone Starts/60
Barrie: 7.47
Savard: 7.96

Savard is much, much worse defensively than Barrie. Plus he brings no offense. He's done - keep him.

Agreed, I want nothing to do with Savard as a Secondary Oilers Fan and certainly wouldn't pay more than Barrie to get him.

Edmundson would be the better fit and either move Kulak to RD or give Vincent Desharnais a look, he had a Very Good Year in Bakersfield Last Season

I don't like Barrie Defensively, but that's not his Forte and he's certainly not as bad or a cap dump like a lot of ppl on these sites believe. EDM just needs a Big Strong Penalty Killer more, since Bouchard is the Future and has essentially made Barrie expendable, not to mention they need Cap Space
Sep. 15, 2022 at 7:57 p.m.
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Quoting: MTL_stats
Barrie being not able to defend vs Savard being half decent defensively makes me think it could hurt MTL more than help.


Hurt how? On the ice? Wouldn’t that be a good thing for the habs?
Sep. 15, 2022 at 7:59 p.m.
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5v5 GA/60 last season
Barrie: 2.51 (-0.32 Rel) he gave up fewer than teammates (-)
Savard: 3.51 (+0.88 Rel) he gave up more (+)

5v5 xGA/60
Barrie: 2.56 (+0.06 Rel)
Savard: 3.08 (+0.35 Rel)

5v5 SCA/60
Barrie: 27.65 (-0.69 Rel)
Savard: 35.33 (+5.30 Rel)

5v5 HDCA/60
Barrie: 10.69 (-0.71 Rel)
Savard: 13.13 (+0.28 Rel)

5v5 Defensive Zone Starts/60
Barrie: 7.47
Savard: 7.96

Savard is much, much worse defensively than Barrie. Plus he brings no offense. He's done - keep him.

This is where advanced starts hurt, more than they help. Theres a ton of variables missed with that. Watch one shift of both guys and its incredibly obvious savard is better defensively
Sep. 15, 2022 at 8:06 p.m.
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This is where advanced starts hurt, more than they help. Theres a ton of variables missed with that. Watch one shift of both guys and its incredibly obvious savard is better defensively


He used to be, but has lost a step or two. He was bad 2 years ago with CLB and TBL, MTL stupidly didn't realize that the cliff had come and overpaid for him. Now they're stuck with him - nobody wants him. He's too slow to defend at the NHL level anymore.
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Sep. 15, 2022 at 8:09 p.m.
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He used to be, but has lost a step or two. He was bad 2 years ago with CLB and TBL, MTL stupidly didn't realize that the cliff had come and overpaid for him. Now they're stuck with him - nobody wants him. He's too slow to defend at the NHL level anymore.


He’s lost a step or two for sure. Leaving him only 25 steps ahead of Barrie defensively.
Sep. 15, 2022 at 8:12 p.m.
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He’s lost a step or two for sure. Leaving him only 25 steps ahead of Barrie defensively.

LOL. Sad little man. The facts are that Montreal is better off defensively when Savard is on the bench... and that's his only (tenuous) claim to an NHL job. He's done.

Edmonton isn't interested.
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Sep. 15, 2022 at 8:13 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
This is where advanced starts hurt, more than they help. Theres a ton of variables missed with that. Watch one shift of both guys and its incredibly obvious savard is better defensively

The Biggest Variable being Offense, which Barrie's more than makes up for his Defensive Weaknesses, can't say the same for Savard.

Stats = Facts

Facts Don't Lie and They Don't Care About Your Feelings - Ben Shapiro
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Sep. 15, 2022 at 10:37 p.m.
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LOL. Sad little man. The facts are that Montreal is better off defensively when Savard is on the bench... and that's his only (tenuous) claim to an NHL job. He's done.

Edmonton isn't interested.


Very weird that you try to make it personal. Says a lot about you. Sorry you get so defensive when someone doesn’t think a player on your favorite team is good.

Edmonton is much better off defensively when Barrie isn’t on the ice.
Sep. 15, 2022 at 10:37 p.m.
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The Biggest Variable being Offense, which Barrie's more than makes up for his Defensive Weaknesses, can't say the same for Savard.

Stats = Facts

Facts Don't Lie and They Don't Care About Your Feelings - Ben Shapiro

Stats tell a certain story that if you don’t understand hockey will make you feel like you do.

Quoting Ben Shapiro is a good way of letting the world know you’re a dope.
Sep. 15, 2022 at 10:44 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Stats tell a certain story that if you don’t understand hockey will make you feel like you do.

Quoting Ben Shapiro is a good way of letting the world know you’re a dope.

"Very weird that you try to make it personal. Says a lot about you."

Very next post, makes it personal. Now Who's The Dope! What a Hypocrite You Are lol, Get Off Your High Horse Already
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Sep. 16, 2022 at 5:19 a.m.
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tears of joy

Edmonton declines hard. There's nothing there that Edmonton wants and CERTAINLY nothing worth a perennial 50 point defenseman and a 1st round pick.


Evans would be a good fit on the Oilers, especially next season after Ryan is gone... but that first rnd pick has absolutely no business being in there... pass on Savard as well.
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Sep. 16, 2022 at 6:28 a.m.
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Edmonton is much better off defensively when Barrie isn’t on the ice.

The facts show you're wrong. Because of course they do.

Barrie has a positive GF% Rel in 8 of his past 9 seasons, including his 2 years in Edmonton. His playoff performance was top notch too.

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Sep. 16, 2022 at 6:41 a.m.
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Barrie being not able to defend vs Savard being half decent defensively makes me think it could hurt MTL more than help.

Agreed in the short term but long term, removing one year of term and getting the first makes up for it especially since we don’t want to be good next year
Sep. 16, 2022 at 6:52 a.m.
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"Very weird that you try to make it personal. Says a lot about you."

Very next post, makes it personal. Now Who's The Dope! What a Hypocrite You Are lol, Get Off Your High Horse Already


Where did i make it personal?
Nothing i said was specifically about you, it was about things you said.
Sep. 16, 2022 at 6:54 a.m.
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The facts show you're wrong. Because of course they do.

Barrie has a positive GF% Rel in 8 of his past 9 seasons, including his 2 years in Edmonton. His playoff performance was top notch too.

tears of joy


What facts? It’s a subjective premise. Listen quit with the fancy stats. I just don’t care. Do you have any opinions of your own, or if I want to know what you think can i just go to naturalstatrick?
Sep. 16, 2022 at 7:12 a.m.
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What facts? It’s a subjective premise. Listen quit with the fancy stats. I just don’t care. Do you have any opinions of your own, or if I want to know what you think can i just go to naturalstatrick?

What facts? Go back and read post 7 and 19. Just because you don't understand what GF% Rel means, doesn't make it meaningless or 'not a fact'. tears of joy

The fact is Barrie outperformed his teammates 8 of the past 8 seasons. So the team is better off when he's on the ice, unlike Savard.

Keep your garbage. Nobody wants him or his terrible contract.
Sep. 16, 2022 at 7:14 a.m.
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What facts? Go back and read post 7 and 19. Just because you don't understand what GF% Rel means, doesn't make it meaningless or 'not a fact'. tears of joy

The fact is Barrie outperformed his teammates 8 of the past 8 seasons. So the team is better off when he's on the ice, unlike Savard.

Keep your garbage. Nobody wants him or his terrible contract.


Well it’s not a fact. You’re confusing numbers and facts.

Player X scored 20 goals can be a fact.
Player X has a gel%RF whatever of 52 can be a fact.
So and so’s team is better off defensively when they’re off the ice is subjective.

Honestly it’s a huge reach to try to say that a player is good or bad because of fancy stats is a fact.
Sep. 16, 2022 at 7:16 a.m.
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Evans would be a good fit on the Oilers, especially next season after Ryan is gone... but that first rnd pick has absolutely no business being in there... pass on Savard as well.

Meh. Next year after Ryan is gone, the Oilers will still have 5 better natural centers than Evans. I don't see any need to trade for a 27-year-old bottom-6 center with the center depth that they have.
 
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