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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4, 2020 at 6:10 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4, 2020 at 12:26 p.m.
Thread: Domi Kerfoot
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>We_Want_The_Cup</b></div><div>I don't agree with this. Nobody really knows the direction MTL wants to be taking, but Domi isn't as important to the team's identity as Weber, Price, Gallagher. Of course, if the GMMB still wants to contend, trading Domi for futures wouldn't make sense anyway. But who knows what happens from now till the end of summer.</div></div>

Agreed, MTL is in a funny place at the moment caught somewhere between reloading or rebuilding. Futures do nothing for them unless they are commiting to a full rebuild in which Price, Weber, Gally and Drouin are all likely dealt but I can't see that happening. Perhaps they clear cap in hopes too land this summer's big fish (Hall / Petro) and then use the assets acquired to improve other aspects of the team.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 26, 2020 at 2:13 p.m.
Thread: Tatar to PIT Petry to VGK and Kovy to WAS
Each one of these is pushing the value to the max and beyond that its simply just too much.


This is how I see it:

- <strong>Retention</strong>. Doesn't mean now instead of a 2nd rounder, your're getting a 1st rounder. Just means more teams are able to make the trade. Meaning getting the <strong>right</strong> package over just getting the best <em>offered.</em>

- Adding a pick to Tatar/Petry. Adding a 3rd or 4th to Petry or Tatar does not mean you can get Poulin or Krebs <strong>and </strong> a 1st. If I'm the other team, I would rather get less retention on both guys and get no additional pick if it means paying less for those players.

- Cap dump. These generally don't mean changing the 2nd to a 1st. It just means now Vegas can make the trade. Where as if you don't they can't. A player who is a pending UFA and being added to a trade at the TDL, has very little "negative value". There is only a small amount of money still owed to them so the cap dump value is very minimal.


So there is only so much maximizing you can do in a trade before it starts getting "too much adding".

IMO.

Tatar with or without retention for cap dump based on how much retention on Tatar, Poulin or 1st plus some other lesser but still good stuff like lesser prospect or lesser draft pick.
Petry with or without retention for cap dump based on how much retention on Petry, Krebs or 1st plus some other lesser but still good stuff like lesser prospect or lesser draft pick.
Kovalchuk for a conditional 3rd. Turns into a 2nd if (something hard but not too hard happens). Turns into a 1st if (win Stanley cup and plays in minimum 75% playoffs games, etc)
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 2, 2020 at 2:16 p.m.
Thread: Next year according to reset plan including Laval Roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>The reality is, the only way the Weber trade comes out looking good is <strong>if he retires the moment he starts looking like he's declining</strong> and I just don't see him leaving the money on the table and destroying the cap situation for the Nashville predators.</div></div>

God I wouldn't like to be Nashville if he does that, that penalty is <em>humongous</em>.
I don't think it's a huge win for Montreal but the trade itself is tilting on MTL side 60/40 at the least. Could Bergevin got more for him ... maybe? But with the situation there was at that time the trade that happened happened and I can't judge other hypothetical trade that could've happened.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 2, 2020 at 11:02 a.m.
Thread: BRAZEAU THE MOST INTRIGUING LEAFS PROSPECT
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Nope, just bring more context to those who are unfamiliar.</div></div>

A group of Leaf fans talking about some prospect doesn't need non leaf fans to chime in on how this prospect will be nothing. It just unnecessary, pointless and combative. You're being a troll, which is why you continue to argue with people on this thread. What is Brazeau? He's a late bloomer prospect who was a terrible skater but is huge and has an NHL Elite level shot. Everyone passed on him because he was such a bad skater. However, TO has the money and resources available to try to build his skating to NHL levels. The rest of his package is all good to great, so finding this project interesting is a normal reaction. That is what this post is about, you piping in saying he's nothing is just a sour bitter troll looking for a fight. Go to bed.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 13, 2019 at 11:17 a.m.
Thread: Which team says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>We_Want_The_Cup</b></div><div>OK but who else would you trade on the leafs? It feels like he's the most expendable piece of value. Would you trade Hyman instead? Maybe Trevor Moore has more value than his stats show? IDK</div></div>

It really depends on what they do with mikheyev. If he wants a ton of money then I think they should let him walk. I definitely like him a lot but anything over 2.5 is too much imo. I feel moore is capable of playing on the 3rd line LW and I'm a big fan of Marchment. Either marchment or engvall will be playing 4 LW I would think unless they are able to sign someone cheap like they did with ennis last season. Hyman has shown that hes a valuable piece to have and I do like what he brings. I think trading him before his contract expires is good (he will probably get close to 4, that's what I've heard). 4 million is way to much for him. I want them to keep 1 of johnsson or mikheyev and keep hyman until his contract is up to ensure that thier left side doesnt get too weak.

If they had to trade someone I would want it to be johnsson once he gets going again or mikheyev if he is asking for a big contract