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Armchair-GM
Feb. 23, 2023 at 10:16 a.m.
Thread:
The Peg Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Schmaltz would be a nice target, but I wouldn't want Chevy paying that much.</div></div>
That's not close to enough for Schmaltz. Easy no from the Yotes
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 10, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.
Thread:
Sources are saying this is exactly what will happen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>Thanks that’s helpful. I made a canes post trading for him and ghost and the breakdown was a 23 1st, 23 3rd and Drury (B/B+ prospect who’s ready now and has a very high floor. Likely a middle 6 center). Could tweak it to a better prospect but bones seem there.</div></div>
I agree, that would be the bones. I think the thing that's tough with the Canes is that any 1st rounder is likely gonna be in the back of the 1st round like (26-32 range) just because of how good they are, so maybe you have to up the prospect or add another prospect to compensate for that. Drury is a top 5 prospect from the Canes system so he's definitely a real piece and I as a Yotes fan would understand that Morrow and Nikishin are too rich for Schmaltz. So maybe it's 23 1st, Drury and then any of Blake/Gunler/Honka
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 10, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.
Thread:
Sources are saying this is exactly what will happen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>What does schmaltz cost in a trade?</div></div>
At minimum a 1st round pick with light protections (like top 10) and an A prospect or an A- and B+ prospect. But to be honest probably a little more. He's got great chemistry with Keller and loves being a Yote (he spoke with Keller and Fischer at the Tempe city counsel meeting over the summer) which is to say I think he's worth more to the Yotes than other teams realize. He's still young and he's part of the identified core forwards (Keller, Schmaltz, Crouse, Maccelli, Cooley, Guenther, Hayton) that should be around to come out of the rebuild
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2023 at 6:48 p.m.
Thread:
DALLAS Cup Push
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hckeydude123</b></div><div>The first and Harley would interest AZ but nothing else would and those two arent enough to get this trade done. So for that reason pretty sure AZ says no deal</div></div>
I'm a Yotes fan and I respectfully disagree Bourque would be of interest too, he's a good prospect and the 2nd rounder is alright. Harley, Borque, 1st and 2nd is good value, especially if you believe in Harley's ceiling (I do). I don't love taking back Khudobin or Hakanpää but understand you need to make the salaries work. The larger issue is that the picks are in 2024 not 2023 which means you're missing out on this draft which is so deep. But I don't think it's too off
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 22, 2023 at 11:08 a.m.
Thread:
Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Czu8iks</b></div><div>Way too much, I start to doubt Arizona has any leverage in Chychrun trade. Asking price is tough to meet, and they have to move him asap, while his contract is still a bargain.</div></div>
ASAP? He has two more year's after this at the same 4.6 number? Coyotes have no rush to move him at all. The price is the price because he's a true top pair defenseman. The proposed trade probably gets close because of Savoie and the 2024 1st but the rest is a bunch of junk. Jokiharju is a useful player but he's not a needle mover in the trade and certainly doesn't meat "1st round value." Coyotes have been there a done that with Hinostroza (who just waived and unclaimed btw), the VGK 2nd rounder might as well be a 3rd considering how good they are. I understand Buffalo not wanting to give up their 23' 1st because they aren't a playoff lock, so I'm fine with that but you've gotta make up the value elsewhere.
I think a realistic Chychrun trade between these two teams is something like Buffalo gets Chychrun - Yotes get 2023 1st (top 5 protected that becomes 2025 unprotected 1st if the pick doesn't transfer), 2024 1st, Savoie OR the same picks with two of Ostlund/Rosen/Kulich as the prospects
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 22, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
Thread:
Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Arizona already tried for Savoie in a Chychrun trade and obviously it didn't happen. If someone was willing to meet Arizona's price he would have been moved already.</div></div>
Where was this reported? Because that didn't happen.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 18, 2023 at 5:39 p.m.
Thread:
Who Says No
The Coyotes say no to all of these. That's taking on a collective 16.4 million in cap commitments for 2 years and 11.4 for the 3rd year for just 3 4th round picks? C'mon man
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 3, 2023 at 10:41 a.m.
Thread:
depth depth depth
The Coyotes aren't using one of their 2 retention slots for a borderline 7th D and 4th rounder. Also they really like Välimäki
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 12, 2022 at 2:27 p.m.
Thread:
Kuzmenko and Ghost
Not enough for Ghost, especially with retention. Neither Coghlan or Bokk are needle movers and the 2nds might as well be 3rds given how good the Canes are. There will be a lot of teams bidding for Ghost, the deadline always drives up prices and this offer is just a lot of "stuff" no real value.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 21, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.
Thread:
Chychrun
So the Coyotes get a player who just got beat out for a roster spot by Blankenburg who no body outside Columbus had ever heard of until recently and then a player in Bemstrom who they could have had for free when he was on waivers.. let alone to mention HE WAS ON WAIVERS. A 2024 1st and 2025 2nd. Sure thing, great trade
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 15, 2022 at 10:49 a.m.
Thread:
Chychrun and Crouse
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ottawa67s</b></div><div>It’s a fair offer to start a negotiation, hardly a joke. We can offer you more than most teams can</div></div>
Dawg... be serious. I know fans always overrate their own team's prospects but Järventie and Brännström just aren't needle movers. Brännström at this point is "what you see is what you get" he's 22 (barely younger than Chychrun) and has aged out of being a prospect, he's also not very good. Järventie still is a prospect but he profiles as a top 9 complimentary wing and that's IF he hits his ceiling. That's just nowhere close to enough upside for the Coyotes to trade two PROVEN commodities, one of which is a top of the lineup star.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2022 at 6:54 p.m.
Thread:
Technicalities are fun sometimes
Swap out Bear for Nikishin and you've got a deal.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2022 at 6:49 p.m.
Thread:
Chychrun and Crouse
That Coyotes trade is a joke right?
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:18 a.m.
Thread:
Stacked defence
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>Really? What a turn if events. I thought it was a foregone conclusion that he’d be traded</div></div>
This from Craig Morgan's recap of last night. For those who don't know Craig is the singular best source for Coyotes new and info. From Craig's piece,
"There was all sorts of chatter surrounding Chychrun early on Thursday, with multiple teams including Columbus, Vancouver and Ottawa reportedly in discussions with Armstrong. Per sources, the Coyotes actually had a deal in place to send Chychrun to an Eastern Conference team but it never reached fruition.
Although he has no trade protection, Chychrun has made it clear that he wants the chance to compete in the playoffs. None of the teams that were rumored to be in the mix for his services are a lock to do so, so with his options too limited to strike what he considers a fair deal, Armstrong has altered his stance on Chychrun.
“Jakob is going to come back and play for the Coyotes next season,” Armstrong said. “That’s our plan and we expect him to be a big part of our team.”
If you hear finality in that statement, you hear correctly. The Coyotes do not intend to trade Chychrun now, but you can bet that Armstrong and Chychrun will sit down for a long discussion on why the 23-year-old defenseman was unable to take another step forward in his development under coach André Tourigny while forwards Clayton Keller, Lawson Crouse, Nick Schmaltz and Barrett Hayton all did so.
Armstrong didn’t say much about Chychrun, but he made it clear that he expects him to regain the form that saw him score 30 goals in 119 games between the 2019-20 and 2020-21 seasons."
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 9:45 a.m.
Thread:
Stacked defence
“Jakob is going to come back and play for the Coyotes next season,” - Bill Armstrong yesterday. Chychrun is off the table
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 3, 2022 at 11:22 a.m.
Thread:
No Gaudreau
In no world are the Coyotes taking anything less than a 2nd for Lucic. Coyotes aren't the Sabres, just look at last year when the Coyotes took on all of Ladd, Stralman, Roussell, Beagle, Eriksson, they are looking for real NHL not LTIR bodies. The team isn't "bankrupt" and there are plenty of other teams (Philly, EDM, Van, Tampa, Pitt, Caroline, VGK) who are just as desperate to create cap room as Calgary, so there will be competition for the Coyotes open cap space. Yes, Lucic only making $1M in real money as opposed to $6M in cap is attractive for the Coyotes but that doesn't outweigh the benefit to the Flames of moving out Lucic's money. Same would go for Monahan. So the price will be high.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 1, 2022 at 1:14 p.m.
Thread:
Realize JP is a middle 6 forward
Prices to move Kassian and Keith are way too low, gonna cost a lot more to shed those, especially with asking AZ to then buyout
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2022 at 6:17 p.m.
Thread:
Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Marino4Norris</b></div><div>Huh? Pettersson isn’t negative value, he’s a fairly paid #4</div></div>
It's not about Pettersson being a bad player or not capable, it's the situation the Pens are in. It's exactly the same as the Flyers moving Ghost to the Yotes last year. If the Pens want to move his money out to sign Letang and Malkin then they need move out Petterson or Zucker or both, and knowing that why would any team send back anything of value to the Pens? They wouldn't. And if your the Pens, it's either pay a sweetener to move out the money or lose Letang and Malkin.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2022 at 2:40 p.m.
Thread:
Can we do it
Georgiev is not a sweetener. He's been a below average back up goalie for several years now, he's coming off a year with a sub .900 sv% and had -7.6 GSVA, he's not good. The Coyotes could easily find better goaltending for league minimum and not have to take Nemeth. Gauthier by your own admission is a throw in. So not it would not work the Coyotes would say no to this in a heartbeat
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2022 at 12:28 p.m.
Thread:
Offseason
No team is paying the Pens anything to take 3 years of Pettersson at 4.02 mil. The 2nd rounder would be going from the Pens to the Yotes and there is nothing coming back from AZ. This would also apply to Zucker
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.
Thread:
next year
Yotes accept
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.
Thread:
Duclair LTIR
Sincere question, does Saarela have any value? He hasn't been even in the AHL for two seasons. I think the Yotes would want someone more like Hutsko or Heponiemi
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 28, 2022 at 1:57 p.m.
Thread:
No bad acquisitions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheMooterus</b></div><div>I’m going to disagree on the price. A 3rd or 4th + a B-level prospect should be enough for a team that’s going to need a little help hitting the cap floor.
If Faksa was a $5M+ cap hit, then I’d agree that he’s getting a 2nd round pick + more in a cap dump, but as a $3.25M player I just don’t see why Dallas dumps a 2nd Round Pick (or someone like Dellandrea) just to move his contract. At that point, it would be more beneficial to eat his contract for one more year & then buyout the remainder of his contract</div></div>
I think that's fair and I see your point, I just know the Yotes have been adverse to taking on any kind of term and would charge a premium for it. I also think the "getting to cap floor" argument is a red herring. The floor is going to be 61 mil and the Coyotes are already at 50 and that's without re-signing any of their own RFAs, plus there's so many other teams (EDM, FLA, Cal, Tampa, Philly, Vancouver) that are desperate to move out bad contracts, they won't have any problem getting paid well to take on money
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 28, 2022 at 1:34 p.m.
Thread:
No bad acquisitions
I'm a Coyotes fan and I'll say that both Martino or Mascherin aren't without value. Martino is an interesting college player and Mascherin has been a good AHL player so this isn't trashing them, and Faksa himself isn't a bad player BUT those two and 4th I don't think is enough to take Faksa on only because he has 3 years of term left which is a lot to take on. Last year when the Coyotes took on Ladd, Stralman, Ghost Bear, Roussel, Beagle and Eriksson they all had either 1 or 2 years left.
I don't think the Coyotes wouldn't take Faksa but I think it would take either a higher pick (likely a 2nd) or a higher quality prospect like Damiani or Dellandrea.
So Faksa + 2nd for Future Considerations OR Faksa + Dellandrea for Future Considerations.
But the idea isn't bad at all
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 28, 2022 at 10:14 a.m.
Thread:
Going for it
Coyotes say no but the value isn't totally off. But, Puljujärvi has no cost certainty unlike Chychrun even though he's a very nice player. I like Broberg as a prospect too. The issue is Barrie, he's a cap dump and you're gonna have to pay the Coyotes to take him. Now you could say Puljujärvi is the payment... but then it makes the trade Chychrun/Fischer/3rd for Broberg and that value is way off.
Chychrun for Puljujärvi + Broberg + a pick is a potential deal.
Future considerations for Barrie + a pick is a potential deal
But as currently constructed, doesn't work
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