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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:58 p.m.
Thread:
LAK Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmack95</b></div><div>Pettersson and 4th for Carter MacDermid and 6th?</div></div>
How come you want MacDermid so bad?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:50 p.m.
Thread:
New starter and lines once healthy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>That’s cute, you’re butt hurt because he’s doing well</div></div>
We have Petersen who is better.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:49 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>It’s true and I’m probably getting the Kings fleeced here, the Kings won’t trade Kupari until they play him and see how he looks, but I think Kupari will end up being the piece we move to address defense at some point.</div></div>
Still if we can trade Akil Thomas to address those needs, we should do that first.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AkiLumme</b></div><div>Where are these Calder votes you're talking about? You realize the voting happens at the end of the year right?
And also, I'm entirely open to the fact that the trade as proposed might not work. It's statements like "Kings say no to Vilardi for Sandin, Liljegren, and Dermott", or "the Kings would protect Clague over Dermott" that show you're over-valuing your players.</div></div>
It was on the NHL App news feed the other day.
Again, Dermott would be lost to Seattle because we can't protect him so it would basically be Liljegren and Sandin which is declined by LA. No team ever trades their 21 year old 2C for prospects. Ever. I don't care about value, it doesn't happen nor should it. Dermott has been in the NHL on one of the best offensive teams in the league and hasn't done anything worth protecting him over Clague. Clague played 18-20 mins a game and did great, he's not worth losing so we can protect Dermott.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:41 p.m.
Thread:
LAK Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmack95</b></div><div>Saw he was scratched and was wondering. Saw LAK were looking for a young top 4 LHD and was wondering the interest in MP. Who else would you offer for him?</div></div>
I made an ACGM of Carter 50% retained for MP and if got decent reviews for the most part. Otherwise maybe a 2nd or something like that. I feel like Hextall would want Carter tbh
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:38 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AkiLumme</b></div><div>LOL Clague is only a year younger than Dermott and can't crack one of the worst D corps in the league. And when you start quoting points totals for defensemen over 9 games you've already lost the argument.</div></div>
I don't feel like I lost an argument. Kings don't want Dermott because no matter what, he's going to Seattle.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:36 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>I mean this trade isn’t happening, Blake won’t trade away Vilardi, but Kupari for Lehtonen and Liljegren. I’d do it.</div></div>
We can probably get Lehtonen for a pick though lol
I'd rather do Thomas tbh. Kupari was at the top of the AHL, not worth trading him at this time.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:36 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AkiLumme</b></div><div>I get it, the past few years have been tough and any signs of light at the end of the tunnel will get you excited. But being outside the playoffs after 20 games means absolutely nothing. Kings are bottom of the league in expected goals percentage at 5v5 so I would be looking for them to come back to earth.</div></div>
I can assure you, the Kings don't see it as the "light at the end of the tunnel" and don't worry I know the tactic of trying to convince fans their player isn't as good as he is so you can make the trade happen, but that doesn't work on most people here and definitely not Kings fans.
Vilardi is a Calder candidate and is 2nd in votes in our division. Obviously Kaprizov is going to win it, but it shows you how the league sees Vilardi, not just the Kings fans.
Vilardi is off limits no matter how bad you want to downplay his value.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:30 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>I’ve wanted that guy with the Kings for forever, he’s the top KHL defenseman and just needs to adjust to the NHL. Leafs don’t likely care for him so you can get him plus players.</div></div>
At the cost of who though? I'm not comfortable giving up our prospects for a guy that has shown more signs of not being able to adapt to the NHL than the other way around.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:28 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AkiLumme</b></div><div>What I've learned today: Kings fans have no idea what the true value of own their players are.</div></div>
Dermott has 1 poing in 17 games. Clague has 3 points in 9 games and other than 4 games last season, those are his first games. Given what Dermott has done in the 3 years he's been in the league, I'm sure the Kings would rather protect Clague.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:24 p.m.
Thread:
LAK Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmack95</b></div><div>What would it take for MacDermid?</div></div>
Realistically, probably a 4th since their isn't a big market for his type of player. He is worth much more than that to the team and I don't see him being traded.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:22 p.m.
Thread:
New starter and lines once healthy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>Why do you have it in for Campbell? He was great for LA and has been lights out in Toronto.</div></div>
He was not "great" for LA. He was good on paper. Let in all kings of stupid goals and never earned the teams confidence. We did have Forbort on our team at the time, but still...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:20 p.m.
Thread:
LAK Trade
Kings decline.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:20 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>I’d take the Lehtonen trade, he’s going to be great and worth the wait.
Vilardi is a 2C on his rookie year is what is more impressive, and that has launched a basement team to middle of the pack. The only point Sandin might have had equal value to Vilardi was when his back was injured for a year threatening his career entirely. He’s healthy and nearly a non-tradable asset.</div></div>
Why on God's green earth do you value Lehtonen so high?
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:19 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AkiLumme</b></div><div>Who would you be protecting instead of Dermott? I have trouble finding players worth protecting to even get to the minimum lol.</div></div>
Doughty, Roy, and Walker. If we go 4-4-1, add Clague to that list.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:18 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AkiLumme</b></div><div>He's a 2C on a mediocre hockey team, not a 2C for most teams. Sandin is a year younger and he's a defenseman (i.e. longer to develop) playing on a team with a backlog of LD. I'm not sure there's a single LD on the Kings that would crack the Leafs lineup.</div></div>
Mikey Anderson who already has a few Calder votes would definitely be playing 3LD if he were on the Leafs, but that's a useless argument.
Given the fact that half the teams in the league don't have a good 2C, I'd say you're wrong about Vilardi.
It doesn't matter though because as it stands the Kings are right outside a playoff spot and Vilardi is a big part in why we aren't at the bottom again.
That argument that because the Kings are a bad team that's why he plays 2C instead of 3C doesn't really hold weight anymore.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:12 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>The problem here is (1) Vilardi has already graduated and Sandin has not (2) That Sandin couldn’t beat out Dermott and Lehtonen for more ice time this season tells me he’s not ready yet (3) Vilardi is already a Calder candidate and eating real minutes at the NHL than Sandin (4) could you please show the prospect ranking list that has Vilardi and Sandin close? They have always been in different draft tiers.
I don’t want Sandin if I’m Blake, I want Lehtonen, Vilardi is the Kings best graduated prospect if a team wants him, it won’t be cheap.</div></div>
I agree with everything except wanting Lehtonen over Sandin lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:12 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AkiLumme</b></div><div>I get it Kings fans, you REALLY like Vilardi. Who are you willing to give up instead. Would swapping Vilardi for Kupari make any sense?</div></div>
Probably not. We can't protect Dermott from Seattle so it's basically Kupari for Liljegren. I like Liljegren a lot, but Kupari was leading the AHL in points before being assigned to the Taxi Squad. I don't think it would be wide to trade him at this time.
I'd consider Akil Thomas for Liljegren.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AkiLumme</b></div><div>General consensus is that Sandin is better prospect than Vilardi. Not saying I agree (probably close), but to add to a trade where you get Dermott who would play in the Kings top 4 and Liljegren who is a top D in the AHL would be a massive overpay for the Leafs. I could see a trade Sandin-Vilardi trade making sense but not on top of Dermott and Liljegren.</div></div>
Except Vilardi isn't a prospect, he's a 2C at the NHL level. Sandin is a prospect that hasn't been able to hold a spot in the NHL.
There isn't a trade to be made.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>I don’t think either team wants to make this trade.</div></div>
Definitely not
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 12:57 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AkiLumme</b></div><div>That's just stupid</div></div>
How so?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 12:56 p.m.
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
Add Sandin and Kings still decline.
Vilardi isn't a 3C either...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 12:54 p.m.
Thread:
youth movement but contender window is open
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jimbo1119</b></div><div>Agreed...by no means looking to move Miller- just realize a team has to give to get....and right now the Rangers have a number of real good D prospects....while LA seems to have a stack of real good C prospects....you’d think both teams would be willing to make a deal- both dealing from a position of strength to satisfy a need...but since both teams are still essentially rebuilding- swapping of blue chips is probably not happening...probably only way to get a blue chip prospect is to squeeze a team in “win now” mode at TDL...this is neither NY or LA</div></div>
My problem is that I think our real issue is at RD, but rumors suggest otherwise. We have no RD in our pipeline to someday replace Doughty or even a #2 RD. Roy is great, but he doesn't put up enough numbers to be a #2 behind Doughty.
I wouldn't mind making a deal for one of Rangers RD, but I'm mainly interested in Lundqvist. Faber seems like a very similar player to Schneider so I'm not sure I'd want him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 12:15 p.m.
Thread:
New starter and lines once healthy
Campbell as the starter? Lol. Good luck
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2021 at 12:02 p.m.
Thread:
Win Later Team
Kings decline both.
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