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Forum: Armchair-GM18 hours ago

Thread: Necas trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Huge_Caniac_Abe_Lincoln</b></div><div>If Necas is traded for a defenseman I hope it is for a righty not a lefty. There's also no way the Canes pay Guentzel 10/year for 8 years, so if that is his asking price they will just let him walk and re-sign Necas with that money.</div></div>

Imo guentzel is the best thing to happen to the Canes in a very long time. he could easily get less but that's about what your 100 point pace forwards get id imagine

Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago

Thread: Necas trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>So the Canes get a long term 3LD (since Nikishin is an LD) who blocks any prospect that might be better. I love Samuelsson, but it’s not worth losing all the offense that Necas would bring.</div></div>

not gonna lie i thought nikishin was a RHD lol. that changes a lot here

Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago

Thread: Necas trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MrAicrow2009</b></div><div>Bad trade for Carolina, Samuelsson put up an abysmal 29 Points in 150 Games and is expensive, Necas on the other hand is a young player who can still grow</div></div>

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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 9:50 p.m.

Thread: Muskoka Mitch The Invisible Man

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Fowler has no reason to waive and Anaheim isn't trading Trevor Zegras for one season of this year's most expensive lame duck.</div></div>

just so we're clear we do know marner is 2x the player zegras is right haha

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10 at 5:36 p.m.

Thread: if they want a competitive rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockey91</b></div><div>But why would they want Laughton when they can sign lundell to the same dollar amount</div></div>

good point. ill change the trade to an offer sheet for a second round pick because Florida cant afford it

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10 at 5:23 p.m.

Thread: if they want a competitive rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Moss_Bucket</b></div><div>Flyers and Sanheim both want to respect the NMC. Sanny's had a good bounce back season, no reason to trade him right now. We still need a couple vets on the team to set an example for the young guns too.</div></div>

i cant watch another minute of travis sanheim out there with cam york. i cant do it

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10 at 5:22 p.m.

Thread: if they want a competitive rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vinny82</b></div><div>Honestly Sanheim has been pretty useful and reliable this year in most situations and really bounced back after a bad season last year. With what the flyers are trying to do building from the D out I don't see them moving him. I think they look to add on D if anything, not subtract. Bonk and Andrae are still a few years out, they don't want to have to rush those guys and Drysdale isn't ready to shoulder more minutes.</div></div>

risto handled top pairing minutes fine when he was there. over a full season, who knows. maybe not. but sanheim is not apart of the future. getting rid of him is a must and a lot of teams could really use that. overall i think he has been more of a liability for york than an asset. so, not good. post ~november he hasn't been too great

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10 at 5:20 p.m.

Thread: if they want a competitive rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>Wings have seven thousand LD, trade doesn't not make sense for them. Try another destination</div></div>

i mean yzerman does questionable things like this all the time i thought it would only be right haha. he gave holl 3 years 3.4 million, copp like 5.6 x 7 or something. if there was anyone to do this deal it would be him

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10 at 5:18 p.m.

Thread: if they want a competitive rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I dunno if any team thinks seven more years of 28 year old Sanheim is a good idea, never mind giving up a first for him.</div></div>

Columbus signed damon severson who is much worse than sanheim to an identical contract as sanheim at the same age i believe. let's not be revisionist here, teams would be willing. a team gave up a fortune for provorov at more AAV for 3 years (yes, not 7) even though he has been terrible for years. cmon, stop that

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10 at 5:16 p.m.

Thread: if they want a competitive rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockey91</b></div><div>But a first and a 2nd is better than this package. Laughton is barely a replacement and two seconds is nothing to Florida.</div></div>

well it would actually be a first and third, i was wrong. ~40OA and a 2026 2nd + Laughton is about identical. like, i don't think it could get any closer

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 7 at 10:42 p.m.

Thread: Ideal but unrealistic offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SpiderSpiderSpider28</b></div><div>1) There's no way Hage or Artamonov fall to those spots

2) If that's the offer sheet Florida is met with, worst case scenario they'll just match and trade him for a better offer than a 2nd rounder, and Lundell won't risk that</div></div>

you're right on both accounts. but I'm not sure lundell wouldn't want a change of scenery though

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 13 at 11:02 p.m.

Thread: Looking ahead to the offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SmoothMcCrimmonal</b></div><div>Not a chance Whitecloud or any dman potentially moved is for free. Assets will be recuperated</div></div>

What leverage does Vegas have? They might get a late-round pick but cap space is scarce. No rebuilder wants that four-year deal, no contender can afford it. Flyers are sort of one of a kind. They'd be willing to make that sacrifice i think

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 13 at 11:01 p.m.

Thread: Looking ahead to the offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ht42</b></div><div>I think they have a maximum of buyout contracts and it's less than that......</div></div>

Apparently it's two. So yeah over did it with three

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 13 at 11:00 p.m.

Thread: Looking ahead to the offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>Hear me out…….or the rangers buy out goodrow and save assets and cap</div></div>

Oh no don't get me wrong Laughton is worth a first by himself. And putting up better numbers than essentially any non-Panarin forward recently, so he's no bum. A third is to get rid of Goodrow. Stanley Cup teams shouldn't be using their buyouts but maybe that's how they roll over in New York. Might explain the lack of success even with a dominant core -- not willing to make sacrifices to win

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29 at 12:16 a.m.

Thread: Who should the jets target tanev vs walker discussion

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Tanev plays a more playoff style game but he may have more suitors as a result. Walker is definitely no slouch either and is more efficient 5v5 has mor sog and hits and good amount of blocks. Way I see it is tanev is an elite pk and block dman but walker is really good in multiple areas but isn't elite but better at more (5v5, offense, physical play, etc). Probably why their price is so similar.</div></div>

Walker is arguably the best PK D in the entire NHL. But that doesn't translate from system to system. Walker is better at pretty much everything but id see why the jets would have wanted someone like tanev more

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23 at 7:22 p.m.

Thread: Offer Sheet

Definitely a cup level team but without saros they have nobody who can competently start 60 games. play a 1b that much and they get awful results most likely, even at his worst saros is elite

Forum: Fauteuil - DGFeb. 23 at 7:17 p.m.

Thread: Montreal

it takes a lot to acquire someone like zegras

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23 at 7:16 p.m.

Thread: TDL24

andersson isnt as good as he was last year. if i really wanted a dman that bad id just go for one of the rentals

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23 at 7:14 p.m.

Thread: Offseason

arizona has a very good starter and backup

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10 at 4:48 p.m.

Thread: creating the best team possible not debatable

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>JVR on the 1st line is an interesting life choice.

That d group is missing some physicality and nastiness to it. Even though all those guys are studs (although I don't know much about Vlasic). Am I severely underrating him?</div></div>

i'd rather have a defense that keeps the puck out of their net better than anyone than one that hits people and gives up goals ya know what i mean. but that's what desharnais is there for. also jvr is there for the tap in goals set up from mcdavid and kucherov

vlasic is fairly good and hes playing tough mins too

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 6 at 6:40 p.m.

Thread: Flyers unrealistic offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>I view him as potential second line guy, I'd prefer Tippet but that sweetheart deal he just signed jumped his value and I would assume he's untouchable after that.</div></div>

i'd assume the same. honestly i see zegras as a slightly better version of tippett which is why i offered so little (i thought it was too much, actually but i still went that high)

at that point the ducks would hang onto him because no team but the flyers would ever think about giving that up, just because of the unique position of their rebuild

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 6 at 6:37 p.m.

Thread: Flyers unrealistic offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>He’s absolutely vital. We have a dearth of scoring wingers, and he was one of our best the last 2 years as a 20 and 21 year old. We’d be unloading one of the things we need most.

Even in your example top 6 where you assume we take Demidov and that he pans out, we have a gap exactly where Z fits as a top 6 LW (and on top of that my expectation/hope is that we take Levshunov). Without Demidov, we have 2 huge holes.

On top of that, the value is also short. To be enticing for Z it’d need to be closer to a ~7ishOA ‘24 pick and Bonk. Not a late ‘25 1st and a 3rd.</div></div>

I might have to rethink Konecny's value I suppose. That's the value for him in this economy? Sheesh, they could get so much for Konecny

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 6 at 6:36 p.m.

Thread: Flyers unrealistic offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CHAR</b></div><div>For one, there is no reason to think they'll take Demidov. It's more likely they take Levshunov or Silayev IMO.

As to the value, Bonk is a fine piece for Zegras but trying to push the pick to Vegas' 2025 1st is just not appealing. The pick is a year too late and in the wrong half of the round (25+ likely). Philly's first in 2024 would be a must.</div></div>

Why'd they trade Drysdale if they're just going to draft another D over the high upside forwards at that spot? Verbeek confuses me if he's taking Levshunov, ESPECIALLY Silayev since he's another LHD

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 6 at 4:35 p.m.

Thread: Flyers unrealistic offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Vatrano doesn't make Zegras a luxury, he was a FA signing and while extremely likeable and fitting well in the system, is not a long term piece of this roster.

If we're trading Zegras to Philly, we're extracting Bonk, Foerster, and Philly's first.</div></div>

maybe i worded it poorly but i was more so thinking Demidov/Eiserman and Gauthier made him a luxury

that package makes sense but to be honest if I'm anaheim i stay away from foerster. i don't see him as a first line forward ever but that's what the trade value would be

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 6 at 4:33 p.m.

Thread: Flyers unrealistic offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>0 interest from ANA</div></div>

just so i know is there a specific reason why? obviously he's a good player but if their top six is something like:

Gauthier-Carlsson-Demidov
X-McTavish-Terry

down the line, is Zegras that vital to the team? that's just what i was thinking. if it's the value i totally get that

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