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Armchair-GM
Mar. 19 at 12:48 p.m.
Thread:
Players Id want
if i'm the flyers i'm looking at offering a 2nd with a 5th or 6th for barron instead of losing a 1st. Barron has had opportunities to crack the roster but hasnt been able to make the case to be an everyday payer in MTL so i'm not sure it would take a first to land him now.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 19 at 10:30 a.m.
Thread:
Getting to an average top 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>Actually we have the 2nd highest scoring d-core in the league.</div></div>
thats what what i was referring too, defensively our d and goaltending are not at a level where we will get by with a mediocre offense.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 18 at 2:58 p.m.
Thread:
Getting to an average top 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>How many points do you think top 6 forwards need? You don't need 6 x 82 point players. 6 guys averaging 60 points between them is pretty good, especially if you have some depth and blueline scoring.</div></div>
i'm not concerned as much about point totals specifically, What they need is someone able to drive and create offensive and lift their line mates. 6 guys averaging 60 points is bare minimum what you need. Ideal the top line is averaging 70-80 points and second line 60-70 points. we don't have the d or the goaltending to get by with an average offense.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 18 at 11:16 a.m.
Thread:
Getting to an average top 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>Stephenson is an elite and I mean ELITE defensive forward. He's better than Danault IMO. I would want that player on my playoff team ALL day. I lined him up with 2 other players who I think are fantastic defensively, because I think as a trio they will destroy the opposition in Expected Goals For.
Monahan, we know what he is. I assume you are worried he will get injured. I am worried that this team will look as inept as they have the past few weeks without him.
Both Monahan & Stephenson would be top 3 in forward scoring on this team this year, and they can both hit 50-65 points per season which is what you would expect out of them.
As to cap space:
In 2025-26 when they need to sign Slaf & Guhle, they will have 24M in cap space with the cap set to go up to 92M and Dvorak, Savard & RHP coming off the books.
In 2026-27, over and above any cap growth and leftover cap room from 2025-26, they will have Matheson coming off the books and it will be the right time to buy out Anderson and/or Gallagher if they need cap room and choose to do so. That summer they will need to resign Dach, Hutson, and any D they want to keep from Xhekaj, Mailloux, Barron.
I don't think these signings hamper the Habs in the way you think they do. These are great players who will help this team grow and gain experience in the playoffs.</div></div>
Thats exactly my point, A team that has Stephenson and Monahan top 3 in scoring (i dont think that would be the case) but if they are that reinforces how much this offense is still lacking, Stephenson is tremendous defensively, but isnt a top line player. And that second line is an average second line at best coupled that with the d-core still needing time to grow these moves dont push the needle enough. In theory both of those players would be awesome to have for playoff runs but i dont think they push us ahead enough to even make the playoffs without other pieces. I'm all for bringing in solid 2-way forwards but mtl is still needing a star offensive forward or they run the risk of repeating this year with the amount of 1-goal games we are in but cant win. The times of being able to score 2-3 goals, play solid team and rely on elite goaltending to win games is gone. That goalie duo is mid-tier at best.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 18 at 10:18 a.m.
Thread:
Getting to an average top 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>I appreciate your perspective, but it seems to me that you completely ignored the meat of my post.
Do you think this team makes the Playoffs in 2024-25?</div></div>
this team as you have it lined up does not make the playoffs in my opinion. I really dont like either of those signings they are far too long and will impact mtl's ability to lock up the young core over the next few seasons. Currently we are handcuffed by the dvorak, andersona and gallagher deals. I think theres are some younger player who would improve the roster, Mailloux and or Reinbacher probably leap frog Barron in the depth chart this summer, would expect one of them sliding in on RD. I also think Beck may make a similar jump next year to what Roy did this year and be a productive player, possibly on that third line. That would leave mtl with the most expensive 4th line in hockey but not much they can do about that for now. As for those two signing i would consider bringing Monahan back if its a 3-4 year deal, Stephanson is not a top line player by any means so that deal is just a lot of wasted money. With the habs picks and prospect they should be looking to make a splash on the trade market. Go after a RFA that a team is going to struggle to pay and bring in someone that fits the timeline of the core.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14 at 2:36 p.m.
Thread:
Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfkst1</b></div><div>Yes, obviously Crosby wouldn't care. Do you know who would? FSG. Because Crosby leaving guarantees millions leaving in revenue for that season. So they would NEVER approve of a trade without it being massive.</div></div>
if crosby walks for nothing after that year they will be losing a whole lot more in revenue when they rebuild drags on and on.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14 at 1:14 p.m.
Thread:
Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gpmack95</b></div><div>Suzuki + Caufield + Slaf + 1st + 2nd + Newhook = 87... maybe.</div></div>
is that for 20 year old crosby or 36--37 year old crosby? If pens move him, and they probably should to kick off a serious rebuild, the return is probably gonna be in the realm of 3 firsts, either picks or prospect. Its on year of crosby i dont see anyone given up more than that, and most likely any first round picks would be late firsts if its a team like the Aves leading the push to land him.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14 at 1:11 p.m.
Thread:
Habs win lottery and off-season Blockbusters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Slaf+Guhle for Nemec+Holtz and NJD maybe considers, unlikely tho</div></div>
wouldnt be anything for the devils to consider habs wouldnt offer that. Slaf is a unicorn in their organization and has continued to steadily improve in all facets of his game. On a side not i dont see any reason for them to pursue Nemec period, knowing that the package would have to be significant.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14 at 12:55 p.m.
Thread:
Cap Space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CHAR</b></div><div>Which side Harris plays is irrelevant. His handed-ness is what matters. The Ducks already have several left-shot guys playing the right side because the team has too many left-shot defenders and not enough righties.
Option three exists: Ducks don't trade Zegras at all. The Ducks don't want to trade him and he's under contract for two more years and an RFA after that.</div></div>
your whole post was about it being relevant thats why i brought it up. theres more left shot dman than right in the nhl most teams use one or two left shot dman on the right side. Anyways thats not important, like i said its fair that duck fans think they should ask for more, and of course just keeping him is the an option, and probably the most likely scenerio. But the trade offer mentioned here for a player that has the upside of probably developing into an 80 point, one dimensional forward is pretty fair. But i do get that it wouldnt be enough to entice the ducks to pull the trigger.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14 at 12:26 p.m.
Thread:
Cap Space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Wrong pieces and wrong 2024 first for Zegras. That offer isn't tempting in the slightest.
When constructing potential trades with other teams, you should spend a few minutes researching what their surpluses and deficiencies are. You shouldn't be any quicker to trade us a LhD than we would be to trade you one.</div></div>
harris plays RD more than LD with the habs so thats a moot point, would be a good idea to review where a player plays before commenting it it not being a fit. The package may be light compared to what ducks fans think Zegras is worth but i dont see MTL wanting to pay more than that, if theres another team that would go above that package then thats great for the ducks.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 13 at 11:25 a.m.
Thread:
Ghule for Raymond
zero chance this would be considered by MTL, Ghule is already a top pairing dman and getting better.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 13 at 11:21 a.m.
Thread:
Messing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habitantlecolon</b></div><div>what would habs need to add?</div></div>
nothing they wouldnt want to give up the player whose supposed to be a pure goal scorer given how much of a need that has been. This is just a deal that doesnt do anything for either side.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 11 at 11:01 a.m.
Thread:
Summer of Kent
habs are going to be looking to add a big offensive piece on their next trade i think, fixing your bottom 6 center situation shouldnt really be a priority right now, not to mention they may already have their future 3rd line center in Beck who should be up in the next year or two.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 11 at 10:59 a.m.
Thread:
Foundation Done
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>Hasn't he been a healthy scratch a bunch?</div></div>
nope he spent some time in Laval after returning from brief injury and has been logging more ice time since his return. They are also trying to spread time around a pretty full d-group but he is certainly not looking like a player they will shape to create some space, most likely Savard will be moved either in the off season or some time next year and Harris seems to be the other top candidate to be moved.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 10 at 4:36 p.m.
Thread:
Montreal
habs probably have to put their first this year in that package, with either jets or calgary first, harris and kidney or other prospect for Necas and not sure that even gets him. I also assume deal start at 8mil per.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 10 at 4:34 p.m.
Thread:
failed to win cup so trading Drai
habs pass, thats not worth it for one year of draisaitl they need a game breaker for sure but not at the expose of most of their core.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 9 at 4:25 p.m.
Thread:
Long run
think it makes a lot of since for mtl, they dont need Jarry at all nor a LD prospect that might not even slide into the top 10 LD on the deapth chart but they go get them with a young center they desperately need and pay the better pick...
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 9 at 12:56 p.m.
Thread:
Getting better
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Hawks probably accept</div></div>
probably? lol hughes should be fired on the spot if he even thought of making that trade lol.
To get someone to take on anderson's contract at this point will probably take the picks but that shouldnt be something mtl is worried about currently and including beck who is having another solid year and could be up next year makes no sense.
Also that at some point Arizona is going to stop selling their top players for picks, i think they have just about reached that time so wouldnt think they'd be at all interesting in making that move.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 6 at 11:02 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs go for it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Blazingbat11</b></div><div>Oh on that we agree. but imo the only way Habs get a 1st for Savard is with MTL retaining his salary next season. The trade proposed above has the retention on Pearson, not Savard. So, a 2nd + prospect is more than fair. And considering Abruzzese is also in the deal, Kind of hard to say no. And then yes, Robertson over Liljegren.</div></div>
if this was Savard final year on the deal i would agree they would take it. But at this point i think its a first with retention if needed or its nothing and see what the market looks like at next years TDL or even in the offseason if a team feel they would want him for a full year.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 6 at 10:37 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs go for it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Blazingbat11</b></div><div>Liljegren will be 25 soon and hasn't been able to solidify his spot on a weak top 6 defensive squad for years now. He has consistent brain farts in his own zone, and has floated between being a healthy scratch and a 3rd pair dman when everyone is healthy or not suspended (in Reilly's case). I have zero interest in him wasting space on the Habs blue line taking away time from Barron, Mailloux and Reinbacher as soon as his season is done in Switzerland.
Robertson is 22, could help give Laval offense for their playoff push, or he could actually fit on the Habs wing once Pearson is gone, and could have a chance at helping the Habs PP2 unit (who desperately needs someone better than Ylonen, Gallagher, Anderson, etc... Only good pieces on PP2 is Roy and Xhekaj). In terms of potential, Robertson at least has "untapped potential" left in him, whereas Liljegren you pretty much know what you're getting.
So yeah, between the two it's really a no brainer. Roberston over Liljegren all day.</div></div>
Robertson is not far off from a full career in the AHL. the fact you think pearson leaving is gonna open a door for Robertson makes little since. A small forward whose biggest attribute when he was drafted was his offense is not going to thrive on a forechecking fourth line and there's going to be no place for him in the top 9. I will concede that he may have a little more value left him in than Lilegren but the reality is neither are pieces montreal's going to want back.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 6 at 9:50 a.m.
Thread:
Chips are in
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tennisman142</b></div><div>Blues say yes. We will give you Thomas at 50% as well</div></div>
and a 2nd rounder to balance out the picks? lol
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 5 at 3:59 p.m.
Thread:
Guentzel and Eller
rangers lose on this deal, feel like the first and a prospect would be the route they would probably want to go, dont think you want to lose Kakko at this point for a rental. This is a year where it would make sense for the rangers to be aggressive at the deadline.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 5 at 3:53 p.m.
Thread:
Just for Fun - Guentzel on Habs
i think the pens would be on board with that type of package, but also would make no sense for mtl to make that move at this point in their rebuild
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 5 at 3:50 p.m.
Thread:
Fever Dream
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jco5ta5</b></div><div>Just for conversation sake, Kirby Dach was traded for #13OA. Between Zegras and Dach, I'm taking Zegras 11 times out of 10. Much more prolific even if he's a bit of a showboat. So 13OA would likely be the foundation of a Zegras trade.</div></div>
100% agree that most would view Zegras ahead of where Dach was, thats the point i was making, a package based off what will probably be a 24th or higher pick in 2025 isnt coming close.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 5 at 3:14 p.m.
Thread:
Fever Dream
if the ducks are willing to go that low on a Zegras deal then it will be beat by a few teams. theres plenty of teams with picks between 5-15 this year that would probably move their 2024 first plus for Zegras
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