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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19, 2021 at 11:18 a.m.
Thread: Deadline Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barilko14</b></div><div>Robertson + 1st is how the conversation starts for Forsberg. Not Rakell.

Robertson is the cheap seconday scoring the Leafs need for the next few years. He's the only prospect that can crack the top 9 (top 6) within the next few years. With the flat cap, he's super valuauble to the Leafs.

How do you view Robertson? It's pretty well indisputable that he's a top 12 pick 2020 pick if he's born 5 days later.

Those guys don't get traded for someone coming off 3 straight 50ish point seasons.

(speaking of Forsberg - this could be Erat for Forsberg Rd. 2)</div></div>

I agree, you could make a deal for Forsberg with Robertson + a 1st too, but you would then have to find another taker on Andersen or Kerfoot most likely to make that work.

My logic with the Robertson + a 1st for Rakell is that the Leafs should be in win-now mode; this is likely their best chance to win a cup considering they are in the weaker all-Canadian division this year; all they've got to do is figure out how to get past the Jets and they'll find themselves in the final 4 where anything can happen. Unlikely to have to go against Boston, Tampa, Washington every single round like they might in another year.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19, 2021 at 11:05 a.m.
Thread: Deadline Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barilko14</b></div><div>Robertson <strong>could</strong> be good in a few years.

Rakell <strong>would</strong> be better with JT and Nylander.

I see. Is this based on something factual, or could it be this is just your opinion?

Either way the price to acquire players should be based on what they are currently not what they <strong>could</strong> become in a better situation. Let's not forget he's playing over 18min/game right now. Keefe has cut JT and Nylander back to 16 min or less per night (even with Nylander on a heater lately). 2+ minutes per game less has a pretty significant impact on scoring over the course of a season.

No way I'm touching Rakell if Robertson is involved in the deal.

You said it yourself the Leafs are one of the highest scoring teams in the league, so what is the panic in acquiring <strong>immediate</strong> help upfront?</div></div>

Sometimes in trades you need to take risks based on how you think the fit would be; there's a reason Anaheim's price is so high on Rakell. Rakell has shown what he can do on a good team (look back at his stats a few years ago when Anaheim was good), and has the analytics on his side as well to show that there's a good chance he would be a higher-scoring player on a stronger team.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19, 2021 at 10:19 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19, 2021 at 10:12 a.m.
Thread: Deadline Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barilko14</b></div><div>Agree.

I know he's on a crappy team, I know he had a great season 3 or 4 years ago, but it appears he's settled in to a 50ish point offensive winger.

Are teams acquiring him to be a 70 pt player if he plays with more talent, because it seems fairly foolish to have to pay a higher price for what a guy <strong>could</strong> be in a different situation.

Robertson is probably Rakell (or better) by 22/23 at the latest.</div></div>

Yes; I think Rakell would be a 70 pt player on a line with Tavares + Nylander, especially considering the Leafs are a much more offensive, higher-scoring team than the Ducks. Plus the cap hit is a steal at that value. Robertson could be good but <strong>could</strong> doesn't really help the Leafs for the next 2-3 years; they need someone now. It is possible that taking on Kesler's contract for the next two years could get the 1st round pick or Robertson reduced to a 2nd in that trade.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 6, 2019 at 5:53 p.m.