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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 10:10 a.m.

Thread: A big swing for next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBoyDuddus</b></div><div>The Sens wont be looking for equal value to what they gave up for Chychrun but that offer is too far off.

Jospeh is a good 3LD/7thD but Nieto would be redundant with the depth Ottawa already has on the left. Smith without retention is basically a cap dump and the fact one of the 2nds isnt for another two drafts after this one... definitely a no go. I know in this scenario you sent the 1st for Swayman but I dont think there is a deal to be had with Ottawa if that 1st isnt going their way.</div></div>

One of the 2nds I sent technically could be a first, we just don’t know yet lol

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 10:09 a.m.

Thread: A big swing for next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TyeZerker</b></div><div>when will you pens fans stop trading Jarry to NJ and your not getting Swayman for that low LOL, If its cost 4m to keep swayman boston is keeping, like why do ppl not think. if a 1st and 5th gets swayman DEVILS beat that with just their 10th overall pick</div></div>

Shhhh there is no logic here

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 9:24 a.m.

Thread: Dubas Pivots To Youth

That’s a lot of unspent money, no way they do that, and no way they trade Eller or Acciari imo

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 20 at 11:34 a.m.

Thread: GMJR never left

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>Canes fans laughed wildly when NYR signed Trochek to that deal. Said it was too much $. Don’t know if JR would have spent that coin. Then all season last year 31 fan bases criticized the contract no different than when kreider signed. But he did want to stay in the metro so it could have happened</div></div>

JR just feels like a guy that signs the guys that just seem like he would, ya know? Like he signs awful deals too, but with no Geno in this thought experiment, feels like his pivot would be Trocheck, the Pittsburgh kid

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 20 at 11:32 a.m.

Thread: Penguinie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>Brzustewicz is a better prospect than raty. I think this is pretty fair tbh. Kuzmenko and smith cancel each other out. So 1st, 2nd, and an A-tier prospect for a retained guentzel</div></div>

It’s already been said the Pens would need at least a 1, NHLer and A prospect, so you’re looking at like Nils, top prospect, and 1 to start for Jake, now if you wanna do straight up Kuz for Smith I’d be willing to talk cause we need a guy we can try to turn into another scorer

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 20 at 11:30 a.m.

Thread: Really going in

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oilers_29</b></div><div>You mean Broberg a 1 and one of the names you listed with no Kane included cause with Kane included that’s just a stupid overpay.</div></div>

I’m saying it like that to prove why Jake most likely won’t be moved, Kane is there just for cap basically, Broberg has flamed out for the oilers, the 1st is gonna be late, so one of those names is like the biggest value the pens get and why it’ll cost so much

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19 at 3:48 p.m.

Thread: Really going in

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oilers_29</b></div><div>Every trade is fine here expect the Pittsburgh one I would rather have Kane then guentzel just because we won’t be able to resign him maybe if he had 2 or 3 years left I would do this deal</div></div>

That’s fine cause it’d be a hard no from the Pens anyway, they need a better player than Holloway, wouldn’t wanna move Ned unless it nets them a 2 alone, and aren’t giving up a 3rd, EDM would be looking at havoto give up like Broberg, Kane, a 1 and one of Lavoie, Tullio, Petrov or Bourgault for just Jake alone

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19 at 3:43 p.m.

Thread: Avalanche

Take Yager out of the pens one and they might do it

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19 at 3:40 p.m.

Thread: GMJR never left

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kingkanuck</b></div><div>No, No, No from Canucks</div></div>

What’s the no here? I’m not doing assets or anything, it’s all purely speculation on what I think the team could look like if GMJR was still the GM, and there was a time everyone thought Boeser was for sure gone and I’d have thought JR would jump on that if he was pens GM at the time

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19 at 3:38 p.m.

Thread: Penguinie

No way the pens accept this, you’d have to have the prospect be Raty, Willander, or Lekkerimaki. Maybe Brzustewicz works but you’d have to add another prospect/player like Bains or Petterson the defender. Plus even with a top prospect the pens are still gonna ask for another NHL player back like Nils, especially if you’re taking Smith from them as well, and that’s all IF they move Jake, and that’s a huge if rn

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19 at 3:33 p.m.

Thread: Why sell when you can simply buy or quickly retool on the fly

Hard no from the Pens, that Walker trade is awful for Philly, and getting a 2 back in that Vatrano trade ain’t happening

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19 at 3:30 p.m.

Thread: GMJR never left

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SidTheKid35</b></div><div>this team is so much better. damn. wanted boeser so bad but hextall never pulled the trigger.</div></div>

Tbh, idk that it’s so much better, I think Zucker and smith are pretty equal, no Geno or EK hurts the star power and offense tbh, but the team is more balanced and has depth so idk

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 13 at 12:02 p.m.

Thread: Bored in the house

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>If the Canucks were desperate to move Kuzy he'd be a Blackhawk already</div></div>

I don’t think they’re desperate to get out of it, but it seems like them, and all the fans would like to as well. Rust is a good 2 way player that can help in a lot of areas. He’s still on a 30 G, 67 pt pace in 82 games. He’s a better player than Kuz rn and that’s pretty clear. His game should age fairly gracefully too the way he plays. And I think Rust would fit way better into how Van plays than Pitt tbh, Ik they’re looking for a star, but he’d do great there, be able to play on the PK and PP1. IK it wouldn’t happen, but neither would Raty, Kuz and a 1 for Jake, Kuz is closer to a cap dump than an asset to any other team in the NHL rn. Nils value is low since he can’t get off the 4th line and is on pace for like 30 points, he needs a new home to see if he can actually do something. Raty is the only one from the nuks with pretty decent value

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 13 at 11:52 a.m.

Thread: Bored in the house

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>YeahRighttt</b></div><div>Phillips might be a victim of the # of LHD prospects the Hawks have in the system, but I don’t think the package coming back would have much appeal. Got anything else to offer up?</div></div>

I mean, go up on the picks maybe, he’s a 5th rounder who’s played ok, not great, he’s a 7th d or in the AHL for most teams. Ruds just evens out the players but also gives them a RHD to play, Nieto is another body, but really it’s just for them to get some picks back, Megna is virtually worthless rn, so yea I mean I don’t think anyone in the deal has a lot of value, probably never will.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGJan. 12 at 1:16 p.m.

Thread: Moving Guentzel while still having a Playoff run

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>Canucks decline.</div></div>

That’s good cause tbh, Pens probably ask for Nils back too or else it’s not good for them

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 9, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.

Thread: Get EK bruh

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Waffelz</b></div><div>The 2024 Devils 2nd upgrades to a 2024 1st if they make the conference finals this year. In the event that occurs, the Sharks would effectively be moving up 1 round from 3rd to 2nd and getting Petry (100% cap dump) and a LD prospect (which they already have too many of) all for the privilege of retaining money on Karlsson. That's basically giving him away for nothing at all.</div></div>

Ah I wasn’t aware of that, I’ll make it a different 2 then

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 11:21 a.m.

Thread: Penguins

Why would Pitt retain that much on Granlund when it costs less to buy him out?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 10:54 a.m.

Thread: Get EK bruh

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>You honestly think San Jose will retain $20 mil and take back over $12 mil in Petry and give up a conditional 1st and 3 more picks for…another LD they already have 12 of? This is terrible as was the other trade you used to base this off of</div></div>

They give up no conditional picks, they get a couple, guess my wording was bad, and some picks go to Ari to pick up additional retention, Petry isn’t a pure cap dump and he could be moved for other picks, Sharks are only retaining like 3-3.5 mil here I just can’t really show that. This most likely ends up being Petry, POJ, a young already top 4 LHD, 2 1sts and a third to SJ.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 10:43 a.m.

Thread: Get EK bruh

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Flames are still not doing that</div></div>

Doing what?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.

Thread: Get EK bruh

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Waffelz</b></div><div>I don't think the Sharks do that even if they kept all of their picks. That offer isn't enough for Karlsson at $5m retained (which the Sharks have come out and said that they won't do, their max is $3m).</div></div>
This would be like 3.2-3.5 from the Sharks and like 1.5 from the Yotes

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 1:26 a.m.

Thread: Get EK bruh

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuanDamienNebraska</b></div><div>Breh.</div></div>

Brah

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 7, 2023 at 11:42 p.m.

Thread: Opening Night

It’s solid, but tbh just take the conditions out to make it easier for a deal, straight up SJ gets a 24 1 and 25 2 add in POJ and take a little more retention and throw a 3rd or 2 back to pit instead of Mac if you’re taking Granlund too maybe make the 25 picks a 2nd and 3rd that have conditions to bump up a pick each like of the pens make the playoffs in 2025 then the 2nd is a 1st, if they make it to the ECF then the 3rd is a 2nd that helps them have insurance for moving a 2 off Granlund and some more retention as well

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 7, 2023 at 11:32 p.m.

Thread: Boredom

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CorrosionRF</b></div><div>No one I mean no one is paying for Bryan Rust and his horrendous contract let alone give up a 1st round pick.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Even if Flames aren't rebuilding they would never consider taking on that contract</div></div>

I saw someone do a flames one that the pens got Ruzicka, a prospect and a 2, can’t remember the other player. His contract isn’t bad either. He’s a 50 point top 6 guy that plays in all situations for about 5 mil, it’s not necessarily a steal, but it’s not like Granlund who’s getting paid about the same to be a traffic cone.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.

Thread: Throwing at a wall another iteration

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aydar_</b></div><div>That offer gets about 1 mil in retention. Honestly, trash offer.</div></div>

They need to retain 3 mil and get a contract back to get a 1st, this way they get a 1st, 2nd and young NHL dman, the value is lower than ppl think

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.

Thread: Throwing at a wall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Untuxed</b></div><div>Tokarski is a Rochester body and GMKA has said they want to run it back with Levi and UPL so I doubt that they are going to take table scraps for him.</div></div>

It’s not scraps, Petry graded out as a above average dman last year and pretty well above too, he wasn’t playing up to his heap hit, but he was still a pretty well above average dman

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