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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 30, 2019 at 6:59 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>capsin9</b></div><div>Caps in 9. Capitals fan... seemed obvious ha.

Love leaf fans though. Can’t make it out of the first round but you’ll let your best player walk bc you overpaid 2 other players haha I love it</div></div>

Marner isn't the Leafs best player.. &amp; 1 player can't carry a team the whole way. Even McDavid couldn't. &amp; if player are being stubborn and want a ridiculous amount of money that they aren't worth, you move them for assets to make the team better. Marner was 60 point player until Tavares signed and played with him. So you're justification that "wingers can make players better too" has some logic to it, but that fact puts it to sleep.

Theoretically speaking, if Marner were to sign an offer sheet, the return is massive for Toronto. They could use that money to sign a player like Skinner, say he makes $8M then. There's an extra $3M in cap space to spend on a d-man to improve the team. That also allows the team to have Skinner play with JT still, keep the Matthews, Johnsson and Japanen line together, move Nylander to 3C and allow them to trade Kadri for an upgrade on defence. Plus they still have 4 future 1st round picks which could be lottery picks of the team Marner went to doesn't make playoffs.
So by letting Marner her his offer sheet somewhere else, Toronto could theoretically get:
4 future 1st round picks
A replacement top 6 forward
Upgrade to the defence
$3M in cap space

... as a Leafs fan, I'd take that. Makes the team more of a contender.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1, 2019 at 12:41 p.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2018 at 5:11 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfalstaff</b></div><div>I don't know.

Do you know what the going rate on a top-pairing D with one year left on his deal is?

Rental price (1st and prospect), plus cost-controlled top-9 contributor and another pick for the extra year, seemed reasonable. I suspect they'd find Kapanen instead of Brown more reasonable though.

Anyhow, Can't think of too many trades involving such assets, so... comparable would be interesting.</div></div>

Going price is: Blue Chip Prospect (Top 3/Top Pair prospect- not top 9), starts with that, nothing less. mid-late 1st, + 2nd + roster player.

Shattenkirk got a 1st, conditional 2nd, and Prospect who ended up being in the blues top 3 ranked prospects 1 PLAYOFF RUN. McDonagh has 2 playoff runs and a whole regular season worth.

The Price is based off of Yandle deal, McDonagh is better, he gets a touch more. But most of the deals we've been quoting are asking for the same. The counter deals we've received call for less.

The last time before that was Chris Pronger in 2009. Chris Pronger was traded at the draft with 1 year left on his deal and he was <strong>35</strong>

June 26, 2009: Traded to Philadelphia by Anaheim with Ryan Dingle for Joffrey Lupul, Luca Sbisa, Philadelphia's 1st round choices in 2009 (later traded to Columbus - Columbus selected John Moore) and 2010 (Emerson Etem) Entry Drafts and future considerations.

(Lupul was a 50 point scorer and 25, Sbisa was Philadelphia's 1st round pick the year before). You think we should use that basis instead?