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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 17, 2023 at 11:56 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 12, 2023 at 4:22 p.m.
Thread: Buyout Hell Year 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drmantalban</b></div><div>Assuming the trade maybe changed from it's original?

If not, I wouldn't be turned off by Petrovsky based on draft position. Kid is solid and if you got offered him and a pick for Seeler, that's a snap accept all day. Wild wouldn't do that, but it's a no-brainer from PHI side.

I'd be shocked if you got a 3rd for Seeler, as much as I love him and am biased towards MN kids. Maybe at the deadline, but I don't see it for a 3rd pair/7th D tweener.</div></div>

You might be correct and maybe the Wild wouldn't go for this trade. You never know trading an 18-year-old prospect if you're going to end up regretting it, but given how flush the Wild pipeline is with more highly regarded prospects and Petrovsky's smallish stature (eliteprospects lists him as 5'9" and 170 lbs), it felt like a deal BG could make and live with the outcome. Petrovsky was a 6th rounder a year ago coming off a season nearly identical to his '22-23 campaign, so it's hard to imagine his stock has appreciated <em>that</em> much to price himself out of a deal like this. But maybe the swap of draft picks included in that deal makes it an overpayment for Minnesota.

I notice in a lot of these Armchair-GM simulations that people overvalue players on their favorite team and create trade scenarios that are completely unrealistic. I wanted to avoid doing that, so I tried to put myself in the shoes of the other team's GM (or more realistically, their fanbase lol) in any deal I tried to build. I feel good about the fact I've had at least one Flyers fan and one Wild fan saying they don't think their team would do that trade haha.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 12, 2023 at 4:05 p.m.
Thread: Buyout Hell Year 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Islesforthecup</b></div><div>Parise has been extremely effective with NYI and had 21 goals this year making league minimum. The reason is that he already got paid and just wants to play on LI</div></div>

The buyouts were mostly about cost certainty, based on everything I've read. Trading them without retaining salary was going to be difficult, given their declining performance and high price tags (and NMCs). And if one or both of them opted to retire before their contracts were completed, the Wild faced paying a recapture penalty. The buyouts <em>suck</em>, no doubt, but Guerin seemingly preferred to know exactly how much money he had to work with every year rather than making moves based on an assumption that he'd have more and then having the rug pulled out from under him.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 12, 2023 at 1:01 a.m.
Thread: Buyout Hell Year 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Samsoc22</b></div><div>Need a higher pick for Seeler for sure, has to be a third at least</div></div>

You might be right, I think a 3rd seems fair. I think a 2nd by itself is too steep. But the Wild have no 3rd or 4th in this draft <em>or next</em>, so they can't meet that ask. My original version of that trade, I had the Wild giving up their extra 2nd-round pick (from VGK) for the surplus 3rd Philly got from FLA, and it also included Goligoski going to the Flyers. You could make an argument that giving up roughly 30 draft spots for Seeler there could be worth it, and there's some symmetry to the teams swapping extra picks to move back into a round they won't otherwise be involved in this year. Talked myself out of it though and substituted Petrovsky, who at least has a little bit of juice as a prospect. (Also not sure how much use Philly has for Goligoski the more I thought about it.)

I like Seeler a lot, and obviously given the Wild's cap crunch, the fact he makes the league minimum next year is ideal. He potentially replaces some grit they'll lose letting Reaves walk, he's fairly responsible defensively. He's an excellent fit IMHO. But I personally think a 3rd rounder is about <em>the most</em> Flyers fans should expect to fetch in return for Seeler. He's still a third-pair Dman who averaged 14 and a half minutes a game and had 14 points, which was a career high as a pro. And he's only signed for one more year before the Wild would have to either give him a raise they probably can't afford or, more likely, let him walk. Maybe flip him for something at the deadline if the team sucks or if one or more of the kids in Iowa looks like they're ready to step in at some point.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 12, 2023 at 12:21 a.m.
Thread: Kickin Tires and Hindends
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drmantalban</b></div><div>This is CF where everyone is apparently an intern to the GM and knows definitively what a team would or wouldn't do.

It's a good offer. Highly doubt it's enough, but imagine it's exactly the kinda thing Briere would counter with some ridiculous ask just in case. Rossi + Addison (or Lambos) + multiple 1sts (or more!)

It's like when you get a job offer that you don't really want take, so you ask for something totally absurd. More often than not, they don't meet the demand, but occasionally you get surprised. It's a no-lose situation for Briere to at least entertain offers on the pick.</div></div>

As a Wild fan, I think this is already too rich for Michkov, even if he ends up being an exceptionally special player (someday). I still think Rossi can be a very special player for the Wild! That's not to say a package like this isn't about what it would take to tempt Philly into trading that pick in that situation, but Minnesota ain't the team that's going to make that deal.

Michkov is expected to be three years away from being able to help whichever team takes him, the Wild are going to NEED Rossi to finally step into the lineup and start contributing starting this upcoming season.