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Forum: NHL TradesFeb. 28 at 9:44 p.m.
Thread: (CGY/DAL/NJD) - Tanev for Grushnikov, 2024 2nd (DAL), 2026 4th (DAL), 2026 3rd (DAL) for Brady
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Pretty bold to state Toronto could offer more when they have no second rounder for the next 3 drafts.</div></div>

If Zadorov and Tanev were to go to TOR a 1st + would have went the other way to make up for the no 2nd's lul

Brad was fine with spending a 1st on multiple pieces and a blockbuster was ready to be had back in NOV.

My guess it would have been

2024 1st + 3rd + 2026 3rd + Timmins and a prospect. All CGY would have to do is ret on both

But there were issues with ret and other factors

In the end that beats

2nd + 3rd + 5th + prospect ( yes there could be another 3rd for Tanev if they go to SCF but there are a lot of good roadblocks this playoffs for them)
Forum: NHL TradesFeb. 3 at 9:47 a.m.
Thread: (MTL/WPG) - Monahan for 2024 1st (WPG), 2027 3rd (WPG)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Maroons1972</b></div><div>When you say it's not true... You base yourself on what stats?
Both players arrived in the league in 2013 and until 2018 they both played on different teams with Lindholm stats not coming close to Monahan stats
Then in 2018-2019 they were both for the flames and even if it was close, Monahan still had better stats.
Its only in 2019-2020 that Lindholm finally passed Monahan and we know at that point he was starting to be slowed and still managed to do better in the playoffs
Then it was downhill for Monahan which explains how the habs got him for free and a first pick.

Now that he is healthy, even with 2nd and 3rd line duties with no help on the wings he is doing better than Lindholm.

I'm not saying that Monahan will be a superstar but if Lindholm brought a 1st, a 3rd, Kuzmenko and 2 prospect including a top D, The habs should've had slightly more.
I understand it's luck and Monahan could've been injured again and we would've got nothing.
Hopefully he will help the Jets for a good push even if this means a bad pick for the habs</div></div>

I agree with everything you said but I don't think Kuzmenko was much of an asset. Maybe he will be built back up by the Flames but Calgary did the Canucks a massive favour by freeing 5.5M off their books in 2024-25. The Lindholm return is very close to the Monahan return as neither Canucks prospect that were moved are more than a B prospect, if that.

Monahan has done more with less talent around him, I agree. Not sure if the fit is perfect in Winnipeg by playing him with speedsters but that goes to show you again that the market was white hot for Monahan, fit didn't matter, he was the 2nd best option out there, which was the entire point that was made by most Habs fans here when it comes to scarcity and why this outcome was so obvious despite the negative, toxic posters spewing their BS left, right and centre.
Forum: NHL TradesFeb. 1 at 10:02 a.m.
Thread: (CGY/VAN) - Lindholm for Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, Jurmo, 2024 1st (VAN), 2024 4th (VAN)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>areax91</b></div><div>It's hard to say whether Kuzmenko will rebound to his freshman year. But even so, two defensive prospects, a 2024 1st and a 4th in itself is a massive overpay for Lindholm. Lindholm is a top 6 player, sure, but worth a 1st, a 4th, and Brzustewicz who projects to be an NHL-caliber offensive defenseman?! For a forward who should be a 2nd and a 3rd or maybe a 1st round alone? Holy overpay Batman, the Flames are making out this one like bandits.</div></div>

It's not two defensive prospects.

Joni Jurmo is struggling in Liiga and likely won't get signed to an ELC. He almost certainly will never make it past the AHL.
Hunter Brzustewicz is on pace for 100 points in the OHL this year. Only 10 other defencemen have done that. ... Only 4 of those played more than 100 games in the NHL. Scouting just dropped and he's projected to be a 3rd-pair defencemen, not a star NHL player.

The 3rd only happens if the Canucks make it to the Conference Finals, which means the Canucks had a relatively good playoffs and they will be happy with the trade. Otherwise it's a 4th. Either way, the odds of them becoming an impact player in the NHL are slim.
It will be a late first in a shallow draft.

Andrei Kuzmenko's cap hit next year was going to hurt the chances of the Canucks signing Pettersson to a long-term deal.

It's a lot of pieces, but nothing critical for the Canucks. If the Flames get lucky, then two of those pieces will hit. If not, then they likely lost this trade.