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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 5, 2023 at 1:40 p.m.
Thread:
hope
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>You just made claims with no data. You can talk about his injury or whatever you want, but those are all factors that arent gonna go away. He also hasnt been better since returning lol, his analytics did not improve since he returned. Anyways I am done with this. There is no argument I could make, objective or not, that could convince you. You are very unreasonable</div></div>
Since when is making objective statements (ie. he was hurt, now he is not hurt) being emotional? You just haven't been making sense. All you had to do was say, "I havent watched this guy play at all but this is what the analytics say" instead of claiming to know how good/bad he is based on numbers that don't provide any context haha. Your age is showing.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 5, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
Thread:
hope
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>correct, i like to use objective stats, you use emotions!</div></div>
Where is the emotion (you're just saying things for the sake of saying things now)? If your ability to use analytics is the same as your reading comprehension then that explains a lot here haha. "Objective stats" which fail to utilize real world context are better than watching a player actually play, according to you.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 5, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.
Thread:
hope
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>watching means nothing when we have quantitive stats that remove all bias and are strictly data points on a consistent scale. Using the eye test is just saying that you like a player. You have no data or quantities to justify your beliefs, solely bias</div></div>
In instances like Demko's season, the eye test means everything and the analytics mean nothing. The analytics remove all context around whats happened through this year. He was injured at the beginning of the season and was playing through it. He is now healthy again. The eye test confirms that in the way he moves and resets after going down to make a save. His lateral movements are cleaner and stronger than at the beginning of the season and he is now making saves that he didnt have the health/strength to make before. Its not about bias, its about context and knowledge of the player beyond numbers. Again, just say "hey my opinion on this player is based on numbers and not having watched him play".
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 5, 2023 at 11:49 a.m.
Thread:
hope
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>GSAx is effectively equal to UPLs... and GSAx is by far the best metric we have in hockey for goalies</div></div>
Right. You can just say you haven't watched him this season
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 5, 2023 at 11:27 a.m.
Thread:
hope
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>So the answer is to give away assets for a goalie having a season no better than UPLs? Id much rather the Sabres go out and sign a veteran goalie, trade away Comrie or bury him and run Levi-UPL-Veteran. That price would be a lot for Demko if he was playing well</div></div>
Your comments lead me to believe you haven't watched Demko and are simply looking at his GAA and SV%... these are bad takes. I can't speak for Buffalo's need for Demko but this price isn't it. Demko, healthy, is in the Vezina conversation every year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 5, 2023 at 11:22 a.m.
Thread:
Aho-lot better
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>1) Aho is worth more than EP
2) If that's all it takes to sign Aho, he'll be extended on the opening day of free agency this year. You're looking at closer to 11.5 for one of the best two way players in the sport, a noted clutch playoff performer, and one of the smartest players in the league</div></div>
You're joking right? I mean Aho is a phenomenal player but he isnt worth MORE than EP. I don't even think thats debatable, just kind of an objective fact.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 14, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.
Thread:
GMKA Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>Bear isn't going anywhere. He has been found gold</div></div>
Not that I disagree that Bear isnt going anywhere but this comment is a little much. Bear is a 3rd pairing Dman, he is serviceable but isnt "gold" nor should he be playing in your top 4. Love the mobility from the guy, like the age profile and he isnt bad but he isnt good either. A 3rd and a 7th would make me think twice about it. signing him to 3x3.75 is just bananalands though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 2, 2023 at 11:52 a.m.
Thread:
Happy TDLday
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kattensmagi</b></div><div>The retained salary on jt is only this season</div></div>
Thats not how salary retention works. If you retain a percentage on a player its applied to current and future contracts.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 1, 2023 at 4:14 p.m.
Thread:
Happy TDLday
If VAN is retaining 50% then PIT has to offer up way more. This would be mean VAN is retaining 4m for the next 7 years after this one...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 7, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.
Thread:
If Demko is Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>I do not think it's a stretch to call Brandt Clarke equal to a 1st rounder - he was the #8OA pick in 2021 and has done nothing but validate that pedigree since.
So, with that in mind, it's worth noting: the only goalie traded in the last 5 years for a 1st round pick was Darcy Kuemper before last season - colorado gave up a 1st you could reasonably predict would be a pick in the mid/late-20s, Connor Timmins, and a conditional 3rd for Darcy Kuemper with retention. Kuemper was coming off a 3 year run in Arizona where he put up a .922 SV% and 2.35 GAA in 111 GP, getting Vezina & postseason All-Star votes in 2 of those years, and even getting some down-ballot Hart Trophy votes in 2019. In other words, dude was on a crazy heater and Colorado viewed him as the guy to get them over the hump - and they *still* got retention coming back in that deal.
Even if you throw out Demko's struggles this year (a big ask, I'd say), his numbers still don't touch Kuemper's - .913 SV%, 2.83 GAA, and only really recognized with postseason award votes last season. I just can't see him getting similar value back in a trade, especially when you have to consider that he struggled mightily this year before getting injured - his trade value has definitely taken a hit.
Beyond all that - why the hell would the Kings, in playoff position, trade 2 of their 3 goalies with NHL experience for a guy in Demko who still isn't healthy enough to play and has been out with a lower body injury for 2+ months at this point? And even more so: in what world would the Kings trade Jonathan Quick for *anything*? Dude's the franchise icon, I can get it if he decides to do the Marty Brodeur "one more year" in a weird jersey, but that'll be his choice, not the team unceremoniously shipping him out.</div></div>
Most of that was great so thank you for putting some thought into it. That last paragraph was objectively poor. A quick read of all the comments above (fair if you didnt) and you'd see that this trade is under the assumption Demko is back and playing pre TDL, Quick and Petersen were simply added to help LA with Cap (not because VAN would want them). I think VAN would be fine to let the ship sail on Clarke since he is apparently the second coming of Bobby Orr according to this thread and have the deal be Demko for Grans, a 2023 1st and a sub-23 y/o B-to-B+ forward prospect.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 7, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
Thread:
If Demko is Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>Demko is injured and wasn't playing well this season. He's worth a decent return, but I wouldn't trade Clarke for him 1-for-1.
This was a proposal made by a reasonable Vancouver fan the other day that the Kings would consider.
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/673971</div></div>
C'mon man, this ACGM was made under the assumption that Demko is back healthy and playing pre-TDL. Didn't think that needed to be said. If not, then obviously this trade wouldnt need to occur until the off-season.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 7, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.
Thread:
If Demko is Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>And $2.375M of savings for one season is worth the Kings best defensive prospect in 15 years? I'd give up a 3rd round pick for that.</div></div>
Hahaha that savings PLUS Demko...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 7, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.
Thread:
If Demko is Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>The wet dream of 10 Vancouver fans each posting one ACGM per day trading Demko to Los Angeles for some combination of Byfield, Clarke, and/or a Petersen-plus-the-2023-first -- THAT wet dream.
I gave my comment a lot of thought before clicking Send the first two times I responded to this trade earlier today. It didn't require any extra thought now.</div></div>
Hmm, seems like if you have keep saying the same thing over and over again that you should probably give it a little more thought so it resonates with someone.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 7, 2023 at 1:28 p.m.
Thread:
If Demko is Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>You guys have gotta get over the wet dream that we'll be trading for Demko anytime before the summer solstice, or that we'll be trading Clarke without Quinn Hughes coming back.
There are 11 games left before the trade deadline, and Demko isn't off the IR list yet 10 weeks into his "6-week" anticipated rehab time. Anybody who would trade significant assets for him without seeing him play at least 20 games has the IQ of a fish. And he may not have time to get those 20 games in before the end of this season.
The false premise from which all of these silly Petersen trades arise is that we have to get rid of a guy we don't have to get rid of. Our roster is set for next season already with only a $1 million rise in the cap ceiling; Petersen can spend the entire season in Ontario and if he never recovers his early form, we can buy him out cheaply in July 2024, so his cap hit is no concern to us.</div></div>
VAN fans do NOT want to trade Demko so idk what "wet dream" you're talking about. It sounds like management is open to that idea so if thats the case, VAN isnt just gonna dump him for scraps. Thus the title "IF" Demko is traded. C'mon, man just give your comment a little bit of thought before clicking send.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 7, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.
Thread:
If Demko is Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>Why would the Kings give up anything of value for "dumping" Petersen if they're retaining $1.5M on his contract? That's barely any savings over stashing him in the AHL next season then buying him out.</div></div>
Its a 3.5m savings instead of 1.125m. That's a real liberal use of the word "barely"
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 7, 2023 at 1:17 p.m.
Thread:
If Demko is Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>The Kings who are making a playoff run wouldn't be watching Demko play, 3ithr as he is injured......How is even good for the Kings this season> Then with the Peterson retention, that makes Demko a 6.5m goalie. Yeah, I know the Kings want to do something about Peterson and his cap at sometime, but geez doesn't this look so one sided for the Canucks?</div></div>
Demko is (supposedly) back before the TDL. This would be done under that assumption. If not then yes, its an offseason thing. Either way, Demko + Petersen = a team's #1A prospect
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 7, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.
Thread:
Kings Deadline
What else is LA giving VAN? Spence and the 1st would be the compensation for having to take Petersen
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 7, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
Thread:
If Demko is Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>So the Kings trade two goalies and more for an injured 3.93 GAA Demko?</div></div>
I think this shows people make comments about players that don't watch. Price, mid-prime, had a 3.11 GAA. Let that erase the goalie he was before and then again after...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 7, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.
Thread:
If Demko is Traded
Good to get a vibe check. Clearly people higher on Clarke than I was. I do think taking Petersen adds negative value to LA (retained or not), Quick was added for cap reasons for LA (VAN wouldnt be interested in both, are actually interested in neither).
My thought was Demko + taking Petersen & Quick = Clarke + a B(ish) prospect
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 31, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.
Thread:
Demko And Co
I actually think VAN would reject or at least prioritize RHD in the return. I think Murray needs retention too.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 31, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
Thread:
Without Bo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ToneCapone420</b></div><div>LMAO, VAN would have to pay to get rid of Pearson or Myers</div></div>
Disagree. I think its out there that Myers is worth a return but his cap is the problem. So Myers at 3m (1m in actual salary) will get a return. Pearson may end up being a wash but retaining makes him a pretty solid depth option for a team looking to compete.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 26, 2023 at 2:42 p.m.
Thread:
Minor Major Surgery
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffdaddy</b></div><div>Coyle and Goligoski won't be waiving their NMC.</div></div>
Fair points. Both were included to help the team trading them away. I dont think VAN would have particular interest in either.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 26, 2023 at 2:39 p.m.
Thread:
Minor Major Surgery
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Newgod77</b></div><div>Bruins trade is laughable</div></div>
Okay, the NMC is granted but whats laughable? A 28OA (at best), B+ prospect, B- prospect and a 3C making too much money...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 12, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
Thread:
Horvat Kuzmenko out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>I think you meant to make Horvat Petterssen. For either Jarvis or Morrow, Horvat is a non starter. For both? We're talking EP with retention. BOY HOWDY That's a bad deal.</div></div>
You go from one hyperbole to another. Pettersson becomes the best player on CAR if he gets traded... then youre asking for retention. We are talking Aho (almost UFA), Morrow, Jarvis and then some hahaha
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 10, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.
Thread:
FixOilersdeadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PhilB</b></div><div>Lol okay. Top forward prospect for 2 UFAs. Don’t think so. Canucks take that all day.</div></div>
Not even close my man. Kuz is in the 1st rounder category easily, Schenn is a 3rd rounder easily and a 2nd rounder is, well, a a 2nd rounder. So if you remove the 2nd you have VAN sending then youre looking at Bourgault + 2nd ish for Schenn and Kuz
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