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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 25 at 5:53 p.m.
Thread: An improved defence But still holes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockeynutter</b></div><div>I forgot to alter he d pairings after signings. I would have Timmins as healthy scratch. As p
For pesce, watching him shows he still plays very good defensively. But if not him, we can look to Roy as well. I was look at a true right handed defensively responsible defender. I get Robertson is still raw and Domi is more offensive. The idea here is to give the young players a chance to prove themselves with limited space and get another good defender which we need. Steeves, Robertson, Cowan etc... will all fight for positioning..the next year we can look to have Tavares signing for much less and can then better address an extra defender, an extra winger and center where needed. Reaves can easily be swapped around with Holmberg, Steeves etc.... he was good recently and proved he can play it agree he is no regular mainstay.</div></div>

All for letting the kids play, but I think that needs to be supported with 200 foot players at forward. Domi definitely isn't it. And if Robertson is going to play 2nd line, I would be inclined to think about another option over JT.

I just don't see this team being any different that this year's beyind the blueline changes. I don't think that is enough to shore up the team's defensive play
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 25 at 4:32 p.m.
Thread: An improved defence But still holes
What I see here is a similar team.to this year.

The bleuline has more bite, but the team as a whole will continue to depend far too much on 6 guys.

Robertson is still green. Far to insulated under Keefe. As a result, I am.not sure is defensive play is there to justify 2nd line minutes. That responsibility falls on JT, and as he gets older, that gets dicey playing heavy minutes.

Domi is a sheer offensive talent. Now the bonus is Jarnkrok is quite effective playing 200 feet and McMann has been a revelation - but that line needs a 200 foot player playing centre.


The 4th line with Reaves on it is a liability. He hits. That is about it. That line needs to forecheck, and outside Dewar, it can't. Simply put, easy exits, pinned in the D zone.

As for the D core itself:

Pesce is very good, but I agree.... isn't the right guy for Reilly. Need more of a two-way presence there. I think that guy is Carrier.....

Timmins on the bottom pair I don't like either. As a platoon option, for sure..... he changes the overall look of the blueline. But a guy like Hakapää playing with Benoit would be some levels of nasty Leafs fans haven't seen on the back end in decades. I would accept Edmundson in that role, but I would prefer the right shot.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 25 at 2:33 p.m.
Thread: 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>Kampf sucks ass this bs trade nets COL less than $2M in cap space for almost 1/3rd of the production. Kampff is good defensively on what planet? He get destroyed in 5v5 shot share his xGD when on the ice is -11. Minus 11. Sure the Avs are right to the cap but it doesn’t mean they give away players. Did I mention Kampf sucks and you trying to say otherwise is pure spin, he sucks at defense his offense sucks for what he is being paid, and his contract sucks. He sucks. Nobody and I mean nobody is trading for him and giving up a real asset. COL could literally do any number of things if they need to move cap, but the one thing they won’t do is give guys away. Kampf (did I mention it already) sucks and where does Robertson play in COL? COL made the choice to build their bottom 6 around Colton and Wood, that hasn’t changed because you say they need to do TML a favor and take a guy who sucks (did I say that already?) who has an awful contract.</div></div>

Kämpf's season this year is a function of linemates.... Gregor and Reaves don't move needles. Wouldn't expect them too. Sheerly a defensive roll, with Reaves being a hindrance on that line and then some. Why else would the Leafs go get Dewar?

Now, if we go back to 2021-22, Kämpf regularly played with some solid linemates - Engvall and Mikeyev.... where he was a defensive conscience (not taking away from his linemates). Had positive offensive metrics for two years..... not over the moon, but positive.

Selling a 1 year snapshot of a player and claiming he sucks doesn't fly. I never claimed he was fantastic - but he is a very good defensive player, who can fill in as a 3C if needed. You can throw that -11 around, but when the guy starts 72% of his ice time in the defensive zone, not many players would do better.

He has had a bad year this year for sure. But he doesn't suck. Frankly I would be alright keeping him, but in this instance that simply won't work.

Not sure what you think the Avs get for Colton. Tampa gave him away for a 2nd last year, to the benefit of the Avs. Now the table has turned. Whether it is Colton, Manson, Lehkonen or Nichushkin (the latter two I would not move at all right now and Manson I think leaves a massive void on the blueline), you are getting less the market value.

As it sits right now, the Avs cannot ice a 20 man roster. So, spreading out $4 million among two players in the bottom 6 makes a tonne of sense.

You don't have to like the reality. I wouldn't. I am sure Bolt fans were just in love with a 2nd for Colton.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 25 at 7:58 a.m.
Thread: 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>Kampff sucks ass and is a cap dump. Don’t need Robertson, one of the easiest no’s ever. In case you missed it COL front office very rarely gets the short end of the stick in a trade and this is awful for COL and you know it.</div></div>

Avs have serious cap issues and you know it. And when I posted this as an Avs ACGM, all saw the logic behind the deal. May not have liked the targets, but the logic is sound.

Kämpf was pretty put up back to back close to 30 point campaigns (28 and 29 respectively if I remember correctly). Playing 15 minutes a game. Roberston playing sheltered minutes is close to a 40 point campaign. Colton is a 40 point player. Better than either player here, yes. But is it that far a step.back from.Colton? No.

Gonna be difficult for the Avs to male a cap move when 31 GMs know they need to make a cap move and get a win out of it. Best case scenario is Lando g 2 players that can fill rolls that come close to the cap hit.

You can disagree. That is fine. But there is your stark reality. Haters will hate
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 25 at 6:45 a.m.
Forum: Fauteuil - DGMar. 24 at 10:44 p.m.
Thread: Habs is back
I am by no means a Habs fan, but moving all that asset for Ansersson is crazy. Barron, Reinbacher, Mailloux should be the top 3 RD (not in that order) within 2 years. All under 23.

In 3 years, with what Hughes has assembled, the Habs will have one of the best bluelines in the NHL.

Absolutely no need at all for Andersson. No. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Further, as much as I love Laughton (and I do), Matheson is a gross overpay. Taking what I would call Hughes' shrewdest moves and turning into a 3C is absolutely brutal asset management. Especially with Beck, Roy and Kidney all comping at the bit.

Don't rush the rebuild. Hughes' work has been stellar. There is not an organizational hole in Montréal. Moving assets to speed that up? Particularly in a position where there is no need? Just wow.

Ride it out bro. Ride it out.

Signed, a Leafs fan.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 24 at 10:28 p.m.
Thread: 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>I think you're probably right that Colton is the most obvious guy to sacrifice at this point. Kampf, however, is a decent but overpaid 4C imo. Stenlund, as you have him here, would be a great pick up imo and is at about the right money. I'd say the idea is right but the targets are wrong. Also think Annunen has shown enough for the back up job.</div></div>

1. Annunen seems to be the consensus.

2. Could be the targets are wrong. Would have to play with a few teams to make a counter arguement. There maybe a better fit. A fair comment for sure. What I will say for Kämpf is I think he is more than a 4C, but not about to argue he is totally a 3C. Is there such a thing as a 3.5C? Be what he is.

3. Stunlund is very much over looked. 4th liners are. He isn't pretty, but he is awefully effective.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 24 at 9:41 p.m.
Thread: 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheOtherAuston</b></div><div>I don't disagree with your reasoning on the leafs perspective of the Colton trade but if we really wanted a guy who is in the 40 point range to take over for JT we already have him, I think domi would be our go to for that promotion as he is similar in a few ways to Colton but we would be able to resign him and keep the assets or move them for a blue line piece (which is what we really need) but that being said I thought it was a well thought out proposal with great reasoning.</div></div>

The Colton acquisition is more than the offensive production. His defensive game is beyind significantly better than Domi's. Why Av fans, as you can see, are quite reluctant to move him.

Further, where you are not wrong that the Leafs blueline need improvement (working on that ACGM that will include this deal), team defense as a whole needs improvement. So where I get moving Kämpf seems counter productive to that thought, replacing Kämpf isn't as difficult. Colton simply plays a well rounded game. Domi is offense, piss and vinegar. Kämpf is defense piss and vinegar. Colton is all that.

The UFA market at almost every forward position is razor thin - where a player like Colton is gonna cost. There are those- like Domi as you say that can produce offense, but that simply isn't the Leafs issue, and why I would say from the Leafs perspective it makes sense. Finding a defensive replacement for Kämpf is there.... and for less money to boot.

I am just putting it out there for Leaf fans: fixing the defensive issues isn't about adding 2 gritty D. No. It is about addressing the lack of a team defensive concept..... something Colton absolutely brings to the table.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 24 at 5:36 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 24 at 5:33 p.m.
Thread: 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letsgosharks</b></div><div>Do you see another move like this, because you are still so crunched against the cap, like say a Manson, Lehkonen, etc. I also think those players are more likely to get moved than a center in Colton</div></div>

I have explained extensively throughout the thread why I think it is Colton. Coles notes version: simply a path of least resistance in terms of filling out the roster.

As for other moves..... that is a 2025-26 problem. What I suggest is that in the right here and now, neither Behrens (some say otherwise) or Ritchie are ready. It allows Kovalenko a year to acclimate to the NHL game, where by all accounts he will be a top 6 forward.

Allowing a year of development will help gauge where they are at and dictate what comes next. And there will be a next. 2025-26 maybe even worse.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 24 at 3:24 p.m.
Thread: 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Komisarek</b></div><div>Love it as a Leafs fan and props to you for providing some thoughtful reasoning. Having said that, it seems like Colorado committed heavily to Colton and won't sell him for pennies on the dollar</div></div>

Again, I will not disagree. But as I have said, 31 GMs know the position the Avs are in. Pennies on the dollar (which I am not sure I would go that far with this deal) maybe a reality. Taking slightly less to free up space to ice a solid team is very much likely the move made.

The conundrum which I have again eluded to here is this:

Lehkonen: let's say the Avs move him. Who replaces him? Plays a 200 foot game. 60 points. One of the better defensive forwards in the NHL. Plays PK. That is a player that if moved is major surgery imo. Takes far too much away from the lineup, especially for that cap hit.

Nikushkin: some injury issues over the last few years, but runs at about a PPG pace when in the ice. A legit top 6 forward. Moving him I guess could be done, but replacing the offense will prove difficult. Two $3 million players may spread some things out, but I don't think they replce the production. And again, that contract is great given what he does.

Manson: a popular target. Vet stay at home D with physical edge. Has looked rejuvenated as an Av. A rather obvious target for a few teams. But the return would leave a hole in the top 4. And replacing Manson, for what he does is about a $4 million price tag. End result: in the same place.

Leaves Colton. And where your point in 100% valid, I also think moving him is also the most pragmatic thing the Avs can do. Replacing his defensive game can be done. Or replacing his 40 points can be done. When comparing what it would take to replace the other candidates, I just think in the holistic approach, it takes significantly more work.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 24 at 3:11 p.m.
Thread: 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LimeyBarsteward</b></div><div>I don’t know that I love the trade. If cmac made this trade I would trust that the scouts saw something and felt that there was room for improvement. I just don’t know that kampf is someone that I would target.
I’d also like to keep one of the deadline acquisitions if possible.
Annunan would be my backup.</div></div>

I don't think there is a deal that any Avs fan is going to love to be honest.

But, pragmatically, what the deal does is spreads out the $4 million of Colton between two quite serviceable players. Now, maybe Kämpf isn't the guy you would want to target. Get it. But, what he does do is full a roll and fills it well enough that the Avs really don't take a massive step back. Which is why I included him. (As a Leafs fan, honestly, I would rather keep him). What I think we can safely say is a deal is coming; and I would think the return would look something along the lines of a 2 for 1.

As for the deadline acquisitions..... yes. I would tend to agree. Of them, Trenin is the one I would target over Stunlund. That is going to depend on both hiw many teams would be in on him and his demands. The Avs just don't have a lot of wiggle room.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 24 at 3:05 p.m.
Thread: 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NMAvsFan</b></div><div>I don't necessarily disagree with trading Colton and I don't think your logic here is bad but I hope they'd look for something a little better than this or they'd just make space by trading him then try to sign someone in UFA they believe could do the job for a year or two. Colton (who is definitely not a 2C or the Avs would have solved that problem without trading Bo) may seem "expensive" but the going rate for 3C's is about $4M; Detroit is paying two 3C's over $5M, LOL.</div></div>

Oh not disagreeing.

Of anyone that could be moved, I just think Colton would be the path of least resistance.

Can the Avs do better than what I proposed? Maybe. But I gotta think 31 GMs no that the Avs are in one helluva spot here, which may or may not dictate a return.

I appreciate recognizing my logic behind the deal, and I really do stand by it. Whether it is the Leafs or another organization, I think whoever is dealt, the return in going to by for a couple players pretty much equally the cap hit going out. Otherwise, I am not sure the Avs solve the issue.