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Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 10:39 p.m.

Thread: Seravalli Insights

Leafs aren't moving Marner if the price is less than your run of the mill top 6 deadline add lmao. Plus, everyone knows Frank has literally no connections within the Toronto front office, he generally sucks at his job

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:45 p.m.

Thread: Cabbie Fixes the Leafs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Robl88</b></div><div>A Marner deal to Seattle makes too much sense. I dont't know if we should touch Saros though, Woll and Hildeby show serious promise.</div></div>

I mean if Saros is attainable (and not for Marner because no chance), I'd take a stab. But you're 100% right, Marner to Seattle seems like a perfect fit. I'd go for a different return though.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:41 p.m.

Thread: VGK Summer 24

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>lossvegas</b></div><div>Based off your proposal it looks like Whitecloud fetched a higher return than Shea which is unlikely. A hypothetical Theodore deal will look similar to the Hanifin trade</div></div>

I actually think Theodore would probably net a higher return than Hanifin, but I might be wrong there. However, that trade is nearly identical to the Hanifin deal (actually better). They get a 20s first rounder and a player that is both younger and better established than Miromanov was.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:35 p.m.

Thread: Use cap space and picks

Don't see a single reason why Minny moves EK and even if they did that package is light. But the guy that said it starts with Cooley + is hella bias lol

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:31 p.m.

Thread: Dubas Dream Move - Year 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>la_scaloneta</b></div><div>It is more from Treliving perspective that he would rather get rid of those 3 guys for whatever the return than to spend 55 million on 5 players again.</div></div>

When in Treliving's career has he ever shown that he's a legit headcase. If he brought that to Keith Pelley, he would be fired on the spot. There is not one single rational argument for the Leafs to ever make this trade. That return would be bad should it be for just Marner.

It's a bunch of mediocre players on deals they don't deserve being traded for a cumulative total of over 200 points last season.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:28 p.m.

Thread: Adding to a recent post by a leafs fan

I don't see a way in which this doesn't result in it being an abject disaster for the Leafs.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:23 p.m.

Thread: Dubas Dream Move - Year 1

How does this make even a lick of sense. The Pens get the three best players involved in the deal? This is legit lunacy

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 1:13 p.m.

Thread: Utah 2024 Roster Shuffle

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logicalicesports</b></div><div>If the Hurricanes re-sign Jake than I think it is closer to that than the Eichel deal. But If Jake walks I agree Marner will get a better package</div></div>

For sure but given that Marner has the full-NMC I would be shocked if he doesn't have an extension in place with any team he gets traded to

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 12:14 p.m.

Thread: Utah 2024 Roster Shuffle

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logicalicesports</b></div><div>I can understand that point but I do not think he will get quite as much as Eichel.</div></div>

He won't be but he also will be extremely close given that he was leading into a extremely invasive spinal surgery. I mean look at Meier or Tkachuk or even Guentzal. The deal you presented is only competitive with the Guentzal deal which was essentially pure rental at the deadline.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 11:35 a.m.

Thread: One big trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>Brandt Clarke is not available. Neither is Quinton Byfield. Change Marner to Matthews and still no.</div></div>

This is certainly a take lmao

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 11:32 a.m.

Thread: UTAH

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logicalicesports</b></div><div>I just put up a post. Send back Schmaltz (a good top 6 player) Fedotov (A prospect with some pedigree) Bjugstad (Someone who can be physical in the playoffs) and a package of picks</div></div>

What is the infatuation with Fedatov? He's not even one of Arizona's top 15 prospects and if graded on a letter scale would be a C prospect at best.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 11:30 a.m.

Thread: Utah 2024 Roster Shuffle

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logicalicesports</b></div><div>Personally I do not see it that way. I think they need to make a change and dismantle that core. Take the best offer but make something happen. Don't be happy with the Status Quo of making the playoffs just to take an L to the Bruins every single year</div></div>

Yes, they should shake up the core but that trade may as well be Marner for Schmaltz straight up, it's no where near even diminished value for Marner. Think about every star player traded in the past and then build around those trade frameworks. Because the one this resembles the most is Eichel with Schmaltz being the Tuch of the trade but instead of Krebs, a first, second and third, its a bunch of nothing

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 11:19 a.m.

Thread: Kraken fans what do you think

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wz92</b></div><div>It will always be if you trade marner. That's inevitable</div></div>

This is true, when you trade the best player in a deal, more often than not, you lose the deal. However, this is too much in the wrong direction. The offensive dip taken from losing Marner would be catastrophic if Gourde is the offensive piece coming back. If you're willing to take that dip then the Leafs should target a more impactful defenseman.

If Seattle isn't moving prospects, they'd likely have to move McCann to make this deal work.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 11:14 a.m.

Thread: Done

I don't even think any of these deals happen on an NHL GM mode

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 5:13 p.m.

Thread: 24-25 Leafs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Carleton</b></div><div>As much as I like Saros this deal won't happen. Marner isn't waiving and it seems like he's made that clear. Plus, Trotz loves Saros</div></div>

Don't know where Marner made it clear outside of that abomination that was an exit interview. Marner didn't exactly seem convinced about his own conviction about staying

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 5:10 p.m.

Thread: Seth Jones

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>klassic</b></div><div>JONES TO TORONTO IS NOT HAPPENING. Please just stop with it.</div></div>

Good lmao. Don't know any true Leafs fans that would want him anyways

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:26 p.m.

Thread: Ducks Land Marner

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>We would never offer it anyways as the OP is a Montreal guy anyway</div></div>

Yea I can't see how Marner, Toronto or Anaheim would be interested in this deal

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:24 p.m.

Thread: Who says no

Sure the defense may be better but this team will not be able to score come playoffs lol, which would just be another chapter of the forever story

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:21 p.m.

Thread: Marleau all over again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>He's more likely to waive than Marner. It's just an opinion, but allowing him to get another $5M-$7M on top of this contract isn't a punch in the face. AND isn't he the worst of the core 4? Money/cap aside. Matthews/Nylander/Marner are better, right?</div></div>

Yes, he is the worst of the core 4, but it was designed to be that way. I understand it's an opinion but what is the actual rational behind him waiving? He still wants to play, he is more than content to stay a Maple Leaf and on a personal level, his kids are in school here, his wife operates a business here, and his parents live here. Why would anyone want to uproot that?

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:10 p.m.

Thread: My dream Leafs roster for next year

Isles say "I think you have the wrong number"

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:09 p.m.

Thread: Marner-less Leafs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DealFinder67</b></div><div>Don’t like Ned as a back up? Can give Bert more as we still have 5+M under the cap but can’t justify giving him more than Domi</div></div>

I'm not that big on Ned, I would likely try going another direction. If the price is right though why not

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:06 p.m.

Thread: NEW ERA Maple Leafs

To all Leafs fans: Please stop with these types of trades. It feeds into the negative stereotypes about this fanbase

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:01 p.m.

Thread: Marleau all over again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>What was the result for the Leafs each year? You're cool with just doing to same thing over and over again?</div></div>

Who said I'm cool with doing the same thing over again? This team has obviously failed year in and year out and obviously Leafs fans know it since historically they are the teams biggest critic, but his is quite literally terrible management to make this move not to mention you're completely overlooking that fact Tavares would never waive.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 3:56 p.m.

Thread: Marleau all over again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>You have 54% of your cap tied up in 4 players. You have zero cap space. You just don't know it yet.</div></div>

Wake up, this has been a narrative for 5 years running. The cap space is quite literally solved after next season. You have quite literally zero puck knowledge

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 3:54 p.m.

Thread: Ducks Land Marner

Since I guess everyone is more focused on saying no to Marner, I'll be the one to say Toronto would have absolutely no interest in this deal.

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