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Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 2:27 p.m.
Thread: Leaf trade ideas From an outsider Nucks Fan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canuck4life</b></div><div>Borgen had a very good season. He had 25 points, more than both Larsson and Oleksiak. He would have been 1 point behind Brodie for 3rd place on your team in D scoring. I have watched him tons on the Westcoast. If I had my choice out of Larsson, Oleksiak or Borgen, I would be going with Borgen, way more upside.</div></div>

Don't know how much more upside you expect from a 27 y/o that is very sub-par defensively and has limited usability in your top 4. If the leafs wanted to go for a defenseman like that I would rather just keep Liljegren.

Not to mention you listed Liljegren as worth a 3rd and a 4th which given his value should theoretically be higher than Borgen's, would make the Marner deal all the more bad for the Leafs
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 2:01 p.m.
Thread: Leaf trade ideas From an outsider Nucks Fan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canuck4life</b></div><div>I don't know man. You get a forward who was an all star this year, a young rugged rhd on a good contract, plus a 1st and 3rd. On top of that, you gain a bit of cap space, pretty good return imo. Marner is expiring after this year as well, so that probably lowers his value.</div></div>

Let's start with Marner, yes he will be expiring but any deal he's included in will be essentially his choice and will likely come with an extension since he has a full NMC which of course would lower his value slightly. Despite this, he's still a 90-100 point winger that is consistently in Selke conversations.

The two most comparable trade situations would be Eichel to Vegas and Tkatchuk to Florida.

Eichel to Vegas: Tuch + Krebs + 1st + Second

Tkatchuk to Florida: Weegar + Huberdeau

The trade you proposed is significantly lesser than both of those deals with the issue being Borgen who is pretty much a filler as hes a 27 y/o bottom pairing defenseman on a non-playoff team.

I think Seattle if Marner was willing to waive would be a great destination but I think any deal likely starts with one of Dunn, Larsson, or Oleksiak with one of Bjorstrand or McCann.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 1:26 p.m.
Thread: Leafs retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Among other things, we expect Byfield to improve on his breakout year and DuBois improve on his cesspool year next season. Then there is the maturation of LaFerriere, Turcotte and Spence . . . much of next season depends upon who will be in goal. The Kings were comfortably clear of Calgary and Seattle this year so the question will be whether two of St. Louis, Minnesota and dark-horse Utahzona will finish ahead of them.</div></div>

I would also expect an improvement from Byfield and would expect some level of improvement from LaFerriere, Turcotte and Spence, however, not to a meaningful enough level where it completely changes the construct of the team. As for Dubois, sure he might be better, but to expect anything more than serviceable would be wishful thinking given his history.

Goaltending is a serious issue as you noted which again will be more wishful thinking than anything barring a trade or signing. Plus I think Seattle is going to make some changes this offseason and I wouldn't be surprised if they shoot back up to contend for a wild-card at minimum with the likes of St. Louis or Minnesota.

Regardless, I fear as though they are going to be stuck with being a maybe solid regular season team that just won't be able to compete with the contenders that are in the top of the west like the Avs, Knights, Stars or Oilers.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 12:21 a.m.
Thread: Next year without Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>As an outsider, the Leafs best games of the series were 5, 6 and 7. Coincidently Mathews missed games 5 and 6 and had limited ice time in game 7. I am not saying Mathews personally is the problem, just the mentality of the team changes when he isn’t on the ice, they play a more blue collar, everyone buys in to defense type of game when they know they don’t have anyone to take over the game himself. They need to figure out how to play that way even with Mathews in the lineup, that is what will get them a deeper run.</div></div>

Yea I wouldn't look that far into this. The rumours/estimates were that Matthews got hurt/had his injury flare up in game 3. Prior to that he had his best playoff performance of his career and carried the team to a win. Yes, the team played their best hockey when he was out, but I think that was probably more indicative of the fact they had their backs against the wall more than not having Matthews. Marner on the other hand is completely different story as he struggled in every single game of this series.