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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 20, 2021 at 11:30 a.m.

Thread: ullmark granlund ekholm deadline

Counteroffer

:mapleleafs
Mattias Ekholm
Mikael Granlund (50% salary retained)

:predators
Roni Hirvonen
Nick Abruzzese
2021 1st round pick (TOR)
2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
2023 2nd round pick (TOR)

And before you say Leafs can't afford this as they are, they should probably make corresponding moves before this trade. Most likely would mean moving Kerfoot somewhere else. But that isn't Preds, because honestly they don't have any use for the guy.

Also don't see NSH retaining on Ekholm. Poile is notoriously known from never retaining on anything, and especially not on long-term assets.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15, 2021 at 6:51 p.m.

Thread: moves that should be made

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hurricanes73</b></div><div>Forsberg returning. he is also comfortable with Nashville prospects so it isn't much of a scenery shift for him. look at how he was tearing up the AHL as a 19 year old and imagine him as a 20/21 year old in the NHL. he has proven himself on every level except the NHL.</div></div>

Yeah I understand that you're talking about Forsberg not returning, but where are you getting that from?

Nine games in a weakened AHL (the taxi squad situation this year robs the AHL of ton of players who would normally be there) is a pretty insignificant sample size. I wouldn't start work on Jarvis' HHOF plaque just yet.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15, 2021 at 6:49 p.m.

Thread: moves that should be made

End of the day, value is made up and fluctuates. Value is what someone is willing to pay. No one on the board knows what a GM is willing to pay for better chance at a cup or 2.

Washington once paid for a declining Martin Erat who was a rental and demanded to be traded with a Filip Forsberg.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15, 2021 at 6:47 p.m.

Thread: moves that should be made

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>At 19? No. So why is that important?</div></div>

What does age have to do with it. The point is AHL success and NHL success are not always a direct correlation. Same with KHL, NCAA, etc

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15, 2021 at 6:47 p.m.

Thread: moves that should be made

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hurricanes73</b></div><div>it is proven that ottawa doesn't utilize him and mrazek will be their best goalie. canes maybe add a pick or a prospect but bannstrom isn't being used right in ottawa</div></div>

Brannstrom is going to be fine long term. He plays well. Got no concerns on that front, even if him being scratched is infuriating. It won't last.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15, 2021 at 6:43 p.m.

Thread: moves that should be made

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>grodziQ</b></div><div>so inconsistent that was 0.99 GAA and .955%sv before injury lol</div></div>

Yeah he can be good. But you don't know what you're getting year in year out. He hasn't strung two good years together in like 6 years. I'd take him over Matt Murray in a heartbeat, but I wouldn't move Brannstrom for him. Also Ottawa have enough young options for a backup that adding a goalie isn't in the cards.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15, 2021 at 6:42 p.m.

Thread: moves that should be made

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Jarvis is an OVERPAY! At 19 he was the top scorer in the AHL during his stint there. Forsberg never showed that kind of promise. That is NOT worth it for Carolina. Anything that starts with Jarvis for Forsberg should be laughed away by Waddell.</div></div>

Daniel Carr also lead the AHL once

I like Jarvis and I do think he will be a very good player. But AHL success doesn’t guarantee anything

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15, 2021 at 6:39 p.m.

Thread: moves that should be made

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hurricanes73</b></div><div>13 oa prospect for 1.5 years of a forward <strong>who wont return</strong> is a pretty good price for them</div></div>

Won't return? What does that mean? He's not even a UFA.

It's not like a 13th OA pick is guaranteed not to bust or anything. It'd be foolish to trade a star player for a single prospect. That's a huge amount of risk for NSH, and while Jarvis looks very promising the odds of him maybe being as good as Forsberg someday are quite slim. That's not a knock against Jarvis - that's just because of the unpredictability of prospects in general.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15, 2021 at 6:33 p.m.

Thread: moves that should be made

Ottawa counters with Matt Murray for Marty Necas. Why in a million years would Ottawa trade Brannstrom for Mr. Inconsistent

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15, 2021 at 6:27 p.m.

Thread: moves that should be made

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Jarvis is an OVERPAY! At 19 he was the top scorer in the AHL during his stint there. Forsberg never showed that kind of promise. That is NOT worth it for Carolina. Anything that starts with Jarvis for Forsberg should be laughed away by Waddell.</div></div>

forsberg has been PPG (or right near it) in the NHL multiple times lol, career 60 point NHLers arent cheap

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15, 2021 at 6:23 p.m.

Thread: moves that should be made

I'd love Jarvis in NSH, but the UFAs don't really have any value to the Preds. Just Jarvis isn't enough.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15, 2021 at 6:42 p.m.

Thread: moves that should be made

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Won't return? What does that mean? He's not even a UFA.

It's not like a 13th OA pick is guaranteed not to bust or anything. It'd be foolish to trade a star player for a single prospect. That's a huge amount of risk for NSH, and while Jarvis looks very promising the odds of him maybe being as good as Forsberg someday are quite slim. That's not a knock against Jarvis - that's just because of the unpredictability of prospects in general.</div></div>

The ol “this prospect will definitely be better than that already proven NHLer and I know this for fact”

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 8, 2021 at 4:11 p.m.

Thread: Couple Moves this summer

Not sure if Nashville takes this. They will want a first and i think a team gives them that.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7, 2021 at 10:49 p.m.

Thread: get him before WPG

Weber needs to play under 20 min
I would go
Ekholm-Petry
Romanov-Weber
Kulak-Edmundson

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 8, 2021 at 9:06 a.m.

Thread: preds fans

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYRFan92360244</b></div><div>Swap Strome with Georgiev and add that Boston University kid that wants to play for Rangers.</div></div>

Ranger fans are something else..... you want a Top 4D a top five prospect for your back up goalie and top ten prospect. How does that benefit NASH

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 8, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.

Thread: 2021 Deadline

Would you do this Deal for Romanov. Didnt think so, so Sens will definitely pass

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 8, 2021 at 12:06 a.m.

Thread: 2021 Deadline

pretty simple pass for the sens

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 3, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.

Thread: We want our 4th back

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ArakinSkywalker</b></div><div>LOL forsberg on his best year scored 67 points, i think thats been rants worst year. You guys couldn't afford rants</div></div>

Forsberg is playing in a defensive team ****. Every year he's first in points while Rantanen is being carried by McKinnon. You clearly don't know anything about hockey except POINTS ahahah

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 3, 2021 at 11:20 a.m.

Thread: notable change

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>I think the value is ok on Granlund, but I agree NSH declines the rest.</div></div>

Looking back I think you’re right. I must have skimmed through these and not fully seen the Granlund deal. I still think they push for a first even if it is just for a 1st

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 3, 2021 at 8:27 a.m.

Thread: intrigue

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>NSH declines the Granlund & Haula trade, but accepts the Ekholm proposal.</div></div>

Agree completely.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 3, 2021 at 7:59 a.m.

Thread: intrigue

NSH declines the Granlund & Haula trade, but accepts the Ekholm proposal.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 3, 2021 at 10:27 a.m.

Thread: Im hearing rumors of this trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ritzy</b></div><div>How is Forsberg "way better"?</div></div>

Ok, not "way" better but he's better. He's gotten more points for the last 4 years except last year, and he's played less games all those years too (except one maybe).

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 3, 2021 at 10:22 a.m.

Thread: Im hearing rumors of this trade

toronto would need to add more

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 3, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.

Thread: Forsberg

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Not at all. 1 year of Forsberg for 3-10 years of Bratt?
What Devils fan wants the former option over the latter?</div></div>

I love that the immediate assumption is that he doesn't want to be here and will walk in FA. obviously you wouldn't make the move if you didn't think you could get him signed.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 3, 2021 at 11:13 a.m.

Thread: Forsberg

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>I wouldn't trade Bratt for Forsberg straight up....
Not to mention add Mercer and a potential lottery pick
Afraid you are miles off on this one</div></div>

That's just being silly now...

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