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Before you judge the Scandella trade

Created by: mokumboi
Team: 2019-20 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 18, 2020
Published: Feb. 18, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Left Handed
Original Team
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$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
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Some will scoff because MTL only paid a 4th and we paid a 2nd. But... notice anything about the salary retention we paid extra for?
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$71,487,927$12,928$665,000$10,012,073
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
LW
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UFA - 2
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 3
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$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
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$1,475,000$1,475,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 2
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$722,500$722,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$758,333$758,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
RW
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000$250K)
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 18, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.
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Yeah, it's expected that you gotta pay for retention and reduced cap....

DeMelo : Better defenseman, 1/4 of Scandella's original price: Third round pick.

Dillon : Better defenseman, also retained. Cheaper contract : 2nd and 3rd.


It's pretty likely that STL meets the conditions and gives up the 4th. At that rate it would have been better to give the value equivalent to a pair of 2nds for Dillon.

Difficult to not judge what has been the day's most "out there" trade.
Feb. 18, 2020 at 5:19 p.m.
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You didn't only pay for retention. You also paid for MTL taking on risk for you. At the time of MTL's acquisition, Scandella was getting scratched, so who knew if he was gonna pan out?
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Feb. 18, 2020 at 5:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Wqrrior
Yeah, it's expected that you gotta pay for retention and reduced cap....

DeMelo : Better defenseman, 1/4 of Scandella's original price: Third round pick.

Dillon : Better defenseman, also retained. Cheaper contract : 2nd and 3rd.


It's pretty likely that STL meets the conditions and gives up the 4th. At that rate it would have been better to give the value equivalent to a pair of 2nds for Dillon.

Difficult to not judge what has been the day's most "out there" trade.


I think the DeMelo trade is the outlier - not sure why Dorion didn't get more.

And you think that conditional 4th is likely met? Blues probably won't re-sign Scandella next year, and reaching the WCF is a tall task, nothing near "likely" IMO.
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Feb. 18, 2020 at 5:26 p.m.
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mokumboi
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Quoting: Wqrrior
Yeah, it's expected that you gotta pay for retention and reduced cap....

DeMelo : Better defenseman, 1/4 of Scandella's original price: Third round pick.

Dillon : Better defenseman, also retained. Cheaper contract : 2nd and 3rd.


It's pretty likely that STL meets the conditions and gives up the 4th. At that rate it would have been better to give the value equivalent to a pair of 2nds for Dillon.

Difficult to not judge what has been the day's most "out there" trade.



Ummm, no. I could certainly debate your opinion comments on Scandella vs. other players/trades, but you obviously have not noticed what I'm trying to get you to notice. Look again.
Feb. 18, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.
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I think the DeMelo trade is the outlier - not sure why Dorion didn't get more.

And you think that conditional 4th is likely met? Blues probably won't re-sign Scandella next year, and reaching the WCF is a tall task, nothing near "likely" IMO.


Anything short of the WCF for this team is a failed year. Tarasenko should be back by then too. It's not a horrible deal that was made, but WSH didn't have to pay this much for retention. Two trades for different categories of defensemen getting the same return looks off .

Hopefully his play proves us wrong.
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