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If Kane and Toews ever hit eject

Created by: HatterTParty
Team: 2020-21 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 31, 2020
Published: Dec. 31, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Left Handed
Original Team
Waivers Exempt
Right Handed
Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Be civil in discussion. This is heavily unrealistic and just want to discuss what a return for either Kane or toews could look like.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,000,000
3$3,000,000
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Hague, Nicolas
  2. Krebs, Peyton
  3. Tuch, Alex
  4. 2021 1st round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Toews, Jonathan ($3,500,000 retained)
2.
CHI
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
CBJ
  1. Kane, Patrick ($3,500,000 retained)
3.
CHI
  1. 2022 4th round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Söderberg, Carl
Additional Details:
TDL
4.
CHI
  1. 2021 4th round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Janmark, Mattias
Additional Details:
TDL
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$75,007,148$1,090,244$2,715,000$6,492,852
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,700,000$3,700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
UFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
UFA - 2
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$6,400,000$6,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW, C, RW
RFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
C, LW
RFA - 4
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$725,000$725,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$880,833$880,833
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$791,667$791,667 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
G
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1

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Dec. 31, 2020 at 2:47 p.m.
#1
Bcarlo25
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Boston is probably one of the worst destinations for soderberg you could pick.
Dec. 31, 2020 at 2:49 p.m.
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Kane is worth more (though I don't think clb would trade him they need him), Toews is worth less if I know vgks prospects well (that's a blue chip and whatever is just below blue chip prospect right?)

Kane is still playing at near Hart level year in year out.

Toews had 2 or so years where he was playing like a 1b centre (a #1 c on a bad team or a #2 on a contender) then bounced back to a legit number 1 c this year. But in none of those years has he played like the hall of famer he was. He's still a very good player, but he is aging. If I were acquiring him I'd be kidding myself to think I'm getting 2012-2017 Toews. I'm getting 2020 Toews which is likely the last few years or even a little worse as he continues to age.

The only argument to increase his value is if one wants to argue Vegas needs that leader to take them over the top. But I'm not a guy who likes to pay for that sort of stuff as it's hard to truly quantify.
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Dec. 31, 2020 at 3:12 p.m.
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Quoting: BCAPP
Kane is worth more (though I don't think clb would trade him they need him), Toews is worth less if I know vgks prospects well (that's a blue chip and whatever is just below blue chip prospect right?)

Kane is still playing at near Hart level year in year out.

Toews had 2 or so years where he was playing like a 1b centre (a #1 c on a bad team or a #2 on a contender) then bounced back to a legit number 1 c this year. But in none of those years has he played like the hall of famer he was. He's still a very good player, but he is aging. If I were acquiring him I'd be kidding myself to think I'm getting 2012-2017 Toews. I'm getting 2020 Toews which is likely the last few years or even a little worse as he continues to age.

The only argument to increase his value is if one wants to argue Vegas needs that leader to take them over the top. But I'm not a guy who likes to pay for that sort of stuff as it's hard to truly quantify.


Columbus pulled the swerve on us anyway, lol.
Dec. 31, 2020 at 3:14 p.m.
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Quoting: BCAPP
Kane is worth more (though I don't think clb would trade him they need him), Toews is worth less if I know vgks prospects well (that's a blue chip and whatever is just below blue chip prospect right?)

Kane is still playing at near Hart level year in year out.

Toews had 2 or so years where he was playing like a 1b centre (a #1 c on a bad team or a #2 on a contender) then bounced back to a legit number 1 c this year. But in none of those years has he played like the hall of famer he was. He's still a very good player, but he is aging. If I were acquiring him I'd be kidding myself to think I'm getting 2012-2017 Toews. I'm getting 2020 Toews which is likely the last few years or even a little worse as he continues to age.

The only argument to increase his value is if one wants to argue Vegas needs that leader to take them over the top. But I'm not a guy who likes to pay for that sort of stuff as it's hard to truly quantify.


It’s probably steep for Toews, but he’s still a 60 point centre, normally good for 20-25 goals (last year 18 but the year before 35). The other thing to consider is that he’s normally 2nd or 3rd on team scoring. It’s not that he isn’t producing, but as a team the Hawks traditionally have had Kane with some crazy point total and then Toews at 60-70 points. On another team I think he could be a 70+ point guy depending on the system and minutes he sees. Steep, but Toews hasn’t fallen off a cliff yet. On Vegas I think he could liven up and chase one more cup.
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Dec. 31, 2020 at 3:24 p.m.
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In Connor We Trust
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For Vegas to accept I think we would need to take on MAF contract
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