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Dubois situation is similar to Trouba in 2019

Created by: LIRIK
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 29, 2023
Published: Jan. 29, 2023
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To me, the PLD situation is similar to Trouba in 2019. He wanted out of Winnipeg to play for the Rangers only. Even the two GMs involved were the same (Cheveldayoff and Gorton).

The price should be alike as Trouba was an elite RD at the time, and PLD is an elite center. Both were having their best season so far. 2019 20th overall pick and Pionk was the price for Trouba.

At the draft, Gorton will probably offer FLO 2023 1st and Barron for Dubois. Might add Dvorak if WPG need him, as MTL would not have a spot for him anymore.
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2023
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22$82,500,000$76,578,332$1,132,500$5,277,500$5,921,668
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LD/RD
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RW, LW
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
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Jan. 29, 2023 at 9:37 p.m.
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MisstheWhalers
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Which is the exact trade proposal most of my fellow Jets fans have been rebuking for months... 🤣
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Jan. 29, 2023 at 9:38 p.m.
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I doubt that gets Dubois. In your example Pionk>>Barron, so there is still likely an add coming from Montreal. That offer would be beaten fairly readily by multiple teams. Young 1C's are the rarest thing in hockey.

The main thing you're missing is that Trouba would only extend with one team. From what we know now that isn't true for PLD at all.
Jan. 29, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
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I doubt that gets Dubois. In your example Pionk>>Barron, so there is still likely an add coming from Montreal. That offer would be beaten fairly readily by multiple teams. Young 1C's are the rarest thing in hockey.

The main thing you're missing is that Trouba would only extend with one team. From what we know now that isn't true for PLD at all.


Uhmm no. Pionk was awful in NY when they dealt him and wasn't worth more than barron is right now.
Jan. 29, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
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A ) Gorton isnt the GM Hughes is.

B) Doing something once doesnt mean you will do it a again. It was a desperation move by the rangers then and the habs front office hasnt done anything remotely that desperate.

C) The Florida pick currently sits 11th by point percentage. The value of 11 vs 20 is a massive difference. Theres a decent chance the 11th overall pick has a better career than PLD where a 20th overall pick its much less likely.

D) With hindsight most rangers fans would likely agree the trade at best was a wash but realistically they ended up losing it. One of the consequences of the trade was giving trouba a deal he was not worth because the leverage of the situation. It will be the same situation with Dubois where you overpay a player for something hes not.
Jan. 29, 2023 at 9:56 p.m.
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You said:
"Even the two GMs involved were the same (Cheveldayoff and Gorton).

At the draft, Gorton will probably offer FLO 2023 1st and Barron for Dubois. Might add Dvorak if WPG need him, as MTL would not have a spot for him anymore"


Interesting connection there, although Kent Hughes is the GM of the Canadiens, and Gorton is their VP of Hockey Ops, not even the President. So, he might be involved in those negotiations but not necessarily. Maybe Cheveldayoff didn't like the results of that trade in hindsight so maybe it doesn't help to have Gorton involved.

I don't see MTL trading for Dubois unless it is a Dvorak+ trade.
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