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Creative Murray trades

Created by: McJoe7
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 24, 2023
Published: Jul. 24, 2023
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
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Description
I was trying to go around the league to figure out a way to get the Murray contract off the books entirely. I don't think any of these would actually happen, the most likely scenario is that they buy him out, but these are my 4 crazy ideas...

Note: all of these trades have the Leafs waiving Timmins and sending down Gambrell, Holmberg, and Robertson with Bobby McMann making the roster as the 12th forward.

Idea 1: Murray and a 4th to the Coyotes for Voracek and Little
Arizona has an arbitration hearing with Jack McBain coming up so I think they get a second buyout window? They might not because Murray wasn't on their team last year, I'm honestly not sure how that works. Voracek and Little are 8.25 and 5.29 in cap hits but are only 7.5 and 3.5 in real dollars. That's still trading 12 million for Murray's 8 million in real dollars, if they were able to buy him out, that's only 5.333 million in real dollars. I also have heard/read that the Voracek and Little deals are insured, so its possible this doesn't help Arizona and they aren't interested. But the Leafs can move Voracek and Little to LTIR and have just over 600k in cap space.

Idea 2: Murray to the Canucks for Pearson and Poolman.
this only works if the Canucks can buy out Murray. He won't play there and making this trade puts them over the cap. But Pearson makes 4.25 in real dollars and Poolman is 3 million in real dollars for 2 more years, so its 10.25 in dollars and a Murray buyout would be 5 million real dollars and 600k on the cap for the Nucks this year. It's not a great idea for them but it does save them just under 5 million dollars, again, depending on the insurance on the Pearson and Poolman deals.

Idea 3: Murray to the Flyers for Ryan Ellis
Ellis is likely done and that's 4 years at 6.25 and a slightly declining actual dollars is 24 million in actual dollars for the final 4 years. Flyers aren't really a team that tends to care about saving cash so this maybe isn't something they even thought about, but it would save them between 16 and 19 million in cash over the next 4 years if they made this deal.

Idea 4: Murray to the Sharks for Radim Simek, Matt Benning, Ryan Carpenter, and Scott Sabourin
Simek and a 4th to Chicago for a 6th
Carpenter, Benning, and Sabourin on waivers, all loaned to the San Jose Barracuda
This one is tricky. My idea for this was the Leafs sending 4 contracts for Grabner who the Isles were trying to get rid of, they were 4 mediocre prospects but the Leafs needed the contract space. The Leafs are at 45/50 contracts right now, the Sharks are at 47/50. Sabourin, Carpenter, Benning, and Simek all won't factor into their roster this year and probably not ever, but they may have intended for Carpenter and Sabourin to help with their AHL team, so when they clear waivers, the Leafs can send them to San Jose anyway, loaning players to different AHL teams happens all the time. Plus, the trade allows the Sharks to take more contracts back in the Karlsson deal. It's a stretch, but it might make sense. It could also be different guys, I just took the 4 oldest/worst players whos contracts I could add up to approximately Murray's cap hit. Leafs should be able to dump Simek for much less than they would have had to give up to get rid of Murray.

More than likely, we will hear about them buying out Murray today, hopefully not before I finish typing this, just wanted to get an idea for what the other options were.
Free Agent Signings
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Murray, Matt
1$4,687,000
Murray, Matt
1$4,687,000
Murray, Matt
1$4,687,000
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
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3.
PHI
  1. Murray, Matt
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5.
TOR
  1. 2024 6th round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Simek, Radim
  2. 2026 4th round pick (TOR)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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20$83,500,000$82,959,783$0$0$540,217
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
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UFA - 3
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
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UFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
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UFA - 4
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
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UFA - 7
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 1
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$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,291,667$5,291,667
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
Taxi Squad
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$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$796,667$796,667 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000 ($100,000$100K$100,000$100K)
RD
UFA - 3

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Jul. 24, 2023 at 12:08 p.m.
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The problem here is Matt Murray wasn't good on a team that he should have been good on. He was ranked 32nd league wide in Save %, you can't justify that price unless you are sending a 1st or equivalent prospect coming back.
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Jul. 24, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.
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Why would a team take Murray, some just to buy him out, when they're trading guys they'll have on their own LTIR?
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Jul. 24, 2023 at 12:13 p.m.
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FYI, the second buyout window can only be used on players who were on the team as of the previous trade deadline.
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Jul. 24, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.
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Leafs are the only team that can still buy Murray out.
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Jul. 24, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
The problem here is Matt Murray wasn't good on a team that he should have been good on. He was ranked 32nd league wide in Save %, you can't justify that price unless you are sending a 1st or equivalent prospect coming back.


Which price are you talking about? All of these trades are for LTIR guys and junk contracts. None of these trades have the Leafs getting anyone who plays.

Quoting: Bobrick
Why would a team take Murray, some just to buy him out, when they're trading guys they'll have on their own LTIR?


Saving cash. The Canucks one which admittedly, I don't think works, would have the canucks trading away 10.25 million in actual dollars for Murray who makes 8 million in real dollars and then buying him out for 5.33, so they would save 7.25 in cash this season swapping out Pearson and Poolman and then 3 million next season. Yes they are on LTIR so they don't hit the cap, but they still get paid. Some owners need to save actual cash. It's a stretch, but I'm trying to be creative anyway lol.
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