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Teams interested in goalies

Created by: Blazingbat11
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 7, 2023
Published: Dec. 7, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
I believe this is the current situation for Allen and Primeau with regards to the Goalie market.

Allen:
I have no doubt there are teams (listed below) that have interest in acquiring Allen. The hold up imo would be on both GMs agreeing on the cost of salary retention. This seems to be a pretty big topic of discussion among GMs this year, seeing as this was one of the reasons TOR failed to acquire Zadorov.

Primeau:
An interesting case. Primeau has really struggled to make a case that he'll be a successful goalie in the NHL, but seems to still be generating a lot of interest from other teams. Scouts must be seeing something where they have the "We can fix him" mentality. Primeau certainly had (or still has) the potential to become a starter. One thing is now certain if reports are to be believed (From Friedman, Basu, and others), Kent Hughes WILL NOT waive him. At the beginning of the season, other GMs were probably playing a game of "chicken" with MTL thinking they would eventually waive Primeau, but this doesn't seem to be the case. They are going to have to pay to get him. Although I don't believe the price is that high.
Trades
1.
MTL
    - 3rd or 4th rd pick if no retention from MTL
    or
    - 2nd or B prospect equivalent if MTL retains salary
    2.
    MTL
      - Waiver exempt "project" player or draft pick equivalent
      - AHL quality starting goaltender
      3.
      MTL
        Dark horse goalie buyer if MIN can course correct to compete for a playoff spot

        I've made another post where I suggested that MTL would be willing to take MAF. I still very much like that idea.

        https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/778776
        MIN
          Allen or Primeau
          4.
          MTL
          NJD
            Primeau or Allen
            5.
            MTL
              Philly is a rumored team having interest in Primeau and the reason Kent Hughes refuses to put him on waivers. Because he's confident Briere will put a claim for Primeau
              PHI
                Primeau
                Buyouts
                Retained Salary Transactions
                DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
                2024
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                2025
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                2026
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                ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
                21$83,500,000$76,051,250$1,170,000$4,300,000$7,448,750
                Left WingCentreRight Wing
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                $7,850,000$7,850,000
                LW, RW
                UFA - 8
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                $7,875,000$7,875,000
                C
                UFA - 7
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                $6,500,000$6,500,000
                RW, LW
                M-NTC, NMC
                UFA - 4
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                $3,250,000$3,250,000
                LW
                UFA - 1
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                $4,450,000$4,450,000
                C
                M-NTC
                UFA - 2
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                $5,500,000$5,500,000
                RW, LW
                M-NTC
                UFA - 4
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                $812,500$812,500
                LW, RW
                UFA - 2
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                $1,985,000$1,985,000 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
                C, LW, RW
                UFA - 1
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                $3,400,000$3,400,000
                RW, LW
                UFA - 2
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                $1,700,000$1,700,000
                C
                UFA - 2
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                $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
                RW, LW
                RFA - 2
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                $775,000$775,000
                C
                UFA - 1
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                $775,000$775,000
                RW, LW
                RFA - 1
                Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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                $4,875,000$4,875,000
                LD
                M-NTC
                UFA - 3
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                $950,000$950,000
                RD
                RFA - 1
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                $867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
                LD
                RFA - 2
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                $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
                RD
                RFA - 1
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                $1,000,000$1,000,000
                G
                UFA - 1
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                $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
                LD/RD
                RFA - 2
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                $766,667$766,667
                RD
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
                $859,167$859,167 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
                LD
                RFA - 1
                ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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                $3,500,000$3,500,000
                RD
                UFA - 2
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                $10,500,000$10,500,000
                G
                NMC
                UFA - 3
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                $3,362,500$3,362,500
                C, RW
                RFA - 3
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                $2,900,000$2,900,000
                C, LW
                RFA - 4
                Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
                $1,400,000$1,400,000
                LD/RD
                RFA - 2
                Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
                $1,100,000$1,100,000
                LW, RW
                RFA - 2
                Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
                $762,500$762,500
                RD
                UFA - 1

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                Dec. 7, 2023 at 11:47 a.m.
                #1
                n.1 Topias Vilen fan
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                Devils don't want Primeau. Allen would be a last resort if there's nobody else at the deadline
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                Dec. 7, 2023 at 12:02 p.m.
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                Quoting: pretzelcoatl
                Devils don't want Primeau. Allen would be a last resort if there's nobody else at the deadline


                The market is definitely thin on available "decent" goalies. Other than Allen, Primeau, and Blackwood in SJ. Who else is there? MAF in MIN? Vladar in CGY? Mrazek in CHI?
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                Dec. 7, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.
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                Quoting: Blazingbat11
                The market is definitely thin on available "decent" goalies. Other than Allen, Primeau, and Blackwood in SJ. Who else is there? MAF in MIN? Vladar in CGY? Mrazek in CHI?


                Very thin - Detroit has three goalies so maybe one of Reimer/Lyon could be moved and I also think Nedeljkovic could be moved from PItt
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                Dec. 7, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.
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                I think potential trade comps for Allen would be

                Allen at half-retained: Devan Dubnyk 2020: Dubnyk (50%)/7th for 5th

                Allen at full salary: Petr Mrazek 2022: Mrazek/25oa for 38oa
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                Dec. 7, 2023 at 1:18 p.m.
                #5
                You know nothing JS
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                Quoting: NHLfan10506
                I think potential trade comps for Allen would be

                Allen at half-retained: Devan Dubnyk 2020: Dubnyk (50%)/7th for 5th

                Allen at full salary: Petr Mrazek 2022: Mrazek/25oa for 38oa


                I love comparables,, even if there isnt a lot in Allen's case. Most goalies traded are way younger.

                MTL would never do the Mrazek trade and pay to dump him. They don't need the capspace so they could just send a goalie down in the AHL if needed. The worst case scenario, loosing Primeau on waivers, would still be better than giving up a high pick.

                IMO Allen's value is a little bit higher than Dubnyk because of the extra season. Absolute best case scenario, maybe up to a 3rd with futures (a lot available to spare) bundled with Allen. That would be KH's magic.
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