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Which year would you want incredible luck on your side

Created by: KentMcNally
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 16, 2024
Published: Feb. 16, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
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NMC
UFA - 5
Description
With the draft lottery rule now being that Montreal can only win the lottery one more time in the next four years, and given that the Habs are in a lottery position this year and possibly next, I looked at the numbers for Celebrini vs Hagens (next year's presumptive #1). I am well aware that Montreal's odds of winning the lottery iwill not be nearly as good this year or next when compared to Chicago's. San Jose's or Anaheim's odds.... but there is still a chance.

If I recall correctly from my reading, there seemed to be more positivity about next year's draft and Hagens, but Celebrini is only 5 months older than Hagens. Celebrini is quite a bit bigger (6 feet and 190 pounds vs 5 foot 9 inches and 168 pounds).

Celebrini is putting up 1.6 points per game in college as one of the youngest players in the country. Hagens is putting up 1.8 points per game on the USNDT, which seems to be a situation where it is a bit easier to score in.

There are many Montreal fans who do not want another down year like this one, so for them the choice may be to take Celebrini this year and push for the playoffs sooner rather than later. I think that the management team will be a little more patient than the fans, but not by much.

So in a hypothetical situation the question is, if Montreal could choose between winning the lottery this year or next (I know it is not their "choice", but this is just a hypothetical) who should Montreal want to have? Celebrini this year (which means getting him 1 year earlier and getting him into the fold 1 year earlier) or Hagens next year (who seems to have more hype around him, but would be a delayed addition to the rebuild by a year)?????
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2024 1st round pick (CHI)
Additional Details:
Macklin Celebrini
CHI
  1. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
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MTL
  1. 2025 1st round pick (SJS)
Additional Details:
James Hagens
SJS
  1. 2025 1st round pick (MTL)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$75,810,416$1,170,000$4,035,000$7,689,584
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
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$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$835,000$835,000 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 16 at 1:26 p.m.
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I would take a top-3 pick in 2025 over #1 in 2024
Feb. 16 at 1:34 p.m.
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I don't think we can afford to be a bottom5 team next year.

Draft Macklin, reunite him with Hutson on the PP and sign/trade for one last top6 forward. Then, we are pretty much settled as long as everyone develops.

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Mack-Dach-????

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Hutson-Mailloux
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Feb. 16 at 1:37 p.m.
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Habs can win 2 times, not sure why you think they can only win once but the rule states that you can only advance your position in the draft by way of a lottery win twice in a 5 years span. Montreal finished last in 2022 and won the lottery but did not advance our position, so that doesn't count against us.
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Feb. 16 at 1:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Habs can win 2 times, not sure why you think they can only win once but the rule states that you can only advance your position in the draft by way of a lottery win twice in a 5 years span. Montreal finished last in 2022 and won the lottery but did not advance our position, so that doesn't count against us.


That is true. My mistake.
My question to you is: If you had to choose between the options of MC in 2024 vs getting JH in 2025, what would you rather have happen, Celebrini this year or Hagens next year (which would mean another year near the bottom for Montreal)?

And why?
Feb. 16 at 1:45 p.m.
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ht42
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I don't think we can afford to be a bottom5 team next year.

Draft Macklin, reunite him with Hutson on the PP and sign/trade for one last top6 forward. Then, we are pretty much settled as long as everyone develops.

Cole-Nick-Slaf
Mack-Dach-????

Guhle-Reinbacher
Hutson-Mailloux


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