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Caps 2017 - adding without subtracting from the future

Created by: ArlingtonCaps
Team: 2017-18 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 10, 2018
Published: Jan. 10, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Alzner trade-
MON gets out from the 4 year commitment. Turning it into a 1 year commitment to Orpik, and receiving a 3rd rounder for their troubles.

Saad Trade-
Chicago gets out from their 4 year 6mm commitment for Saad. In return takes on Grubauer (Crawford has been hurt for 50% of the season) and Connolly, who is not a huge drop off from Saad at a 1.5mm cap hit. For their troubles, they upgrade a 6th rounder to a 3rd.

This allows the Caps to turn Orpiks 5.5mm cap hit in 2018 into Alzner + Saad, but lengthening the overall commitment of those dollars long-term (4 years). All while upgrading the scoring punch a bit and getting a more palatable cap hit for a 3rd line dman who they have familiarity with.
Trades
1.
WSH
  1. Alzner, Karl ($2,125,000 retained)
MTL
  1. Orpik, Brooks
  2. 2018 3rd round pick (WSH)
2.
WSH
  1. Saad, Brandon ($2,500,000 retained)
  2. 2018 6th round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Connolly, Brett
  2. Grubauer, Philipp
  3. 2018 3rd round pick (TOR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$75,000,000$63,211,773$4,978$582,500$11,788,227
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$9,538,462$9,538,462
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$6,700,000$6,700,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW
UFA - 2
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
UFA - 8
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C
UFA - 1
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 8
$650,000$650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$660,000$660,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$6,100,000$6,100,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$1,275,000$1,275,000
LD
UFA - 6
$3,966,667$3,966,667
RD
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LD
UFA - 2
$703,333$703,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 10, 2018 at 1:24 p.m.
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GOAT
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Interesting idea, but I don't think there's anyway Chicago or Montreal would do those trades retaining that much salary
Jan. 10, 2018 at 1:50 p.m.
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It's an interesting thought, but I don't think Chicago would pull the trigger on that one. They gave up Panarin to get Saad back, so he's obviously very important for them to have back. Remember, they also got Forsberg in the deal to be their goalie of the future. That cancels out the need for Grubauer. While the value may be close, the fit is not.
Jan. 10, 2018 at 2:26 p.m.
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Carl
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Why would they trade for Alzner that didn't want to resign with them?
Jan. 10, 2018 at 2:44 p.m.
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ArlingtonCapitals
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Quoting: carlcataclysm
Why would they trade for Alzner that didn't want to resign with them?


He didn't resign/didn't want to resign because the Caps couldn't pay him what Montreal could.
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Jan. 10, 2018 at 6:21 p.m.
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Very intriguing thought about Saad. He adds to our scoring. With that being said, you’d probly have to give up Burakovsky instead
Apr. 4, 2018 at 7:14 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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Montreal isn't retaining that much salary over four years for a 3rd pick and an equally slow cap dump.

You're right that Chicago would have to retain salary to trade Saad for Connolly. Posting this on April 4th, 2018, Saad has three more goals than Connolly, while playing 7 more minutes a night with much better linemates.

Saad has been a good playoff scorer, but almost half of his playoff points came in 2013-14. He's kind of hot/cold in the playoffs, which is a step up from Connolly so far, but not a big enough step up to throw in Grubauer and a 3rd.

With the benefit of having seen Grubauer play another dozen games, and show that his gaa and spct in small samples are not flukes, his value is about equal to Saad's, whether or not Saad is available. Even without knowing that, though, I don't get how the Caps would be better off heading to the playoffs without a backup goalie, and just cap space.

I mean... maybe they could have traded for someone, but who knows?
 
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