Green on the top pair? Price trade is horrendous for ARZ. Not a fan of this at all. Why on earth would they trade OEL for Brodin and then potentially Dahlin for Price? They could draft an OEL replacement in Dahlin and then trade OEL for something actually good instead of an overused dman and a low ceiling forward prospect and cap dump? it doens't make a ton of sense to me. It probably make more sense to trade OEL/1st round pick for the #1 overall pick + just to get Dahlin.

Not sure why Minni would do it. They have enough cap issues. Brodin and ELC Ericsson might be better value. Can't the Coyotes find a cheaper but good goalie instead of Price and keep that # 1 pick. But I see your logic in both trades.

durrrr someone can't read. I said if Arizona got the top pick the trade wouldn't happen right in the trade. Thanks for proving you're a fool by rating this a 1 when you clearly couldn't even comprehend it properly. That's a glaring example of little kids being little kids.

Again, I said this trade only happens IF NOT THE #1 PICK.... they only have a 20% chance to land the #1 pick, so why is everyone giving it to them already?

Honestly I've battered a Price to Arizona trade in my head a million times. It really is the most logical destination IF:

- Price can be convinced by cousin Shane Doan to go there.
- Arizona management realizes they'll need to spend some money for this team to finally get better.

If those two criterion are met, than there is a deal to be made.

Habs need young centerman like Strome or Dvorak, etc.
Habs need picks.
Habs need a rebuild and sell off talent for futures.
Arizona needs a superstar presence that Price can give. More importantly a good goalie though. Not to mention a marketing boost.
Arizona needs to start being able to compete now.
Arizona has the cap space.

The only major problem is the two "IF's". Those are big hurdles to jump but if they are, Arizona and Price is a solid match for a trade where both teams could be happy with their returns.

I didn't mean the # 1 pick overall. Just questioning if Arizona can't get good goaltending for 5.5m sign a UFA for 5m and keep their pick (about three overall) as better value than one Price at 10.5m

I've thought of price to Arizona a bunch as well as I like doing Montreal as a Boston fan to give more sanity on their players values. The biggest "IF" to me is where the 1st rounder ends up. IF it's #2 then I think Montreal likes the deal better than if it's #4, but it's hard to gauge the value and change it on the fly like that. I think Strome is the piece at C that Montreal needs, he's doing great in the NHL but needs a little more coaching to become a true top 6 center. With Montreal's emphasis on skill he'd be a great addition. The winger also helps out but he's an afterthought in the deal. Montreal is short on RW's and he can play there on the 3rd line. It's more about Montreal dipping for 3 years and then rising above where they are currently.

okay, which ufa goalies do you think are capable of turning things around for them?

Well lets look at it from the other side of the shoe (minus the idea of the draft pick being high)

You are assuming Arizona can just sign any UFA 5.5M good goalie. If it was that easy i think they would of done it already.
Again with the 5M for free agency. Who they going to sign? How many good UFA's actually are available in free agency? What are the odds, Arizona is the best option for them?
The pick yes, I can agree with that but lets just assume its a player like Svechnikov. How many more scoring wingers do they need? Not that one can never have enough but will that player be enough to push them over the edge?

Everyone likes to say "we can use that cap space better,etc) Did edmonton use their cap space better on Lucic and Russell? Did Buffalo use it better on Okposo and Johnson? Did Vancouver with Eriksson and DelZotto?

Cap space is only used wisely if it is actually used wisely! If you plan to use that cap space to resign guys like McDavid, Matthews, etc. okay you have a point there but in free agency??

So maybe if the pick is Dahlin, I can agree. Thats a generational talent that should not be traded for almost anything. but below that are very good prospects but no guaranteed superstars. Unless Dylan Strome is still a guaranteed superstar in your mind?

I wasn't commenting on the 1st to be honest. Any price trade isn't necessarily contingent on a 1st but rather good solid young pieces. I'd love the 1st but i wouldn't nix a deal if it wasn't included.

Not sure, but I ask you this. Look at Price, has he turned the fortunes of Montreal? Counting this year, eleven seasons, three rounds of playoff wins. So is he or any goalie, truly going to turn around a team? Bad goaltending can sink a team, but can one goalie lift a team that much over the course over of a year? If you really think Price can do lead Arizona to the playoffs, fine make the deal, but really can he?
It's the somewhat the same logic, I see in many nonsensical trades to the Leafs....Trade for OEL or McDonagh or Karlsson, with just 1.5m years on their contract for two Leaf good regulars and suddenly the Leafs are THAT much better to challenge for the Cup.

This is nothing like trading for a guy with 1.5 years on his deal. Do you agree that Price is the best goalie in the world? Do you agree that Goalie is the most important position in ice hockey? If you agree with these 2 statements then you're literally being insane to oppose this.

Palhal you're hilarious... A leafs fan talking down about another team missing the playoffs rofl that's pure gold. Your team missed the playoffs the most between 2015 and 2005 buddy.

The fact that you call it ice hockey? But thanks for not acknowledging the facts, that the best goalie has won three playoff rounds in eleven years. So while I'm neutral on the trade, not opposed as you think, you seem to be under the illusion that Price can carry Arizona to far greater success. So, please don't call me insane when you cannot factually support an argument. Want to make the trade fine, but I don't think Arizona will ever get the results (due to Price) that you suggest.

I think if Price can carry the 2016-2017 Canadiens to the playoffs he can do it for Arizona. They literally scored less goals than the league average but because Price was so good they ended up with over 100 points. Apparently you missed that entire season....

You're not even a hockey fan, when you call it ice hockey. That's for the red herring you just threw out about the Leafs. Look at Price 11 playoffs seasons (counting this year), three playoff rounds. Just goes against your fascination that one player will make that much difference. Again I'm not opposed to the deal, though you called me insane, you're either delusional or just are being argumentative (just to support the trade) that one player is going to make THAT much difference.

The fact that you call ice hockey, makes me think you're a newbie to the NHL. Stick to field hockey.

No I was doing that for you because you clearly have no knowledge of Carey Price and how he basically always makes the playoffs even with bad teams.

Im not sure I understand what you're getting at here palhal but maybe you/i misinterpreted something. Either way, I emphatically said that it is a BIG "IF" for this to work.

Regarding any trade of Price, I just don't know if Montreal would like draft picks as much sure fire prospects. IMO the posts that maybe St Louis makes sense. Instead of Arizona, the Blues are in Cup contention. Maybe the Blues think, Price would put them over the top. They have lots of prospects and have enough "good money" to send back to Montreal in a trade.

I'll stick to my original comment, that I don't think Price could help Arizona that much, especially if it costs Arizona a top pick and prospects.

If the Habs decide to rebuild, too bad they didn't to it a year ago. Trading Price at his peak with a year under the old contract, keep Sergachov and not signing Alzner. But all teams/management always seem to fix things for one last chance at a long playoff run before the rebuild. You have a good pulse on the Habs, what direction should they be taking?

Wild hang up. OEL doesn't fill any need for them, but the trade opens up big holes in their future.