This IS The Solution (A Carolina Trade)

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Created by: Arom5477

Team: 2017-18 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 29, 2018

Published: Jan. 29, 2018

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Trade Explanations:

Carolina Trade:

Sheary and a 1st may seem like a lot, but you have to think about it. Legitimate 3C's don't come around every day. Ryan is on pace for roughly 44 points this season; and has the highest possession stats of the whole CAR team (56.77 CF%), while also being one of the higher possession players in the league. He has a reasonable cap hit as well. If he's on the market, he's going to be worth a good amount.

Also, if I was GMJR, I would sign him to a $3,750,000 x 3 years contract as soon as he gets off the plane.

Chicago Trade:

Who knows what Chicago is going to do at the trade deadline. If they are sellers, I'm looking at Sharp. He provides that leadership we lost with "Dad," while providing a scoring punch to the 4th line. I believe Cole at 50% retention is worth Sharp and a conditional 3rd.

Arizona Trade:

The going rate last season's trade deadline for a decent depth defenseman was roughly a 4th rounder. And Connauton was the only player I could see coming to PIT.

Lineup Explanations:

No Sprong:

While I believe Sprong will be a everyday NHL'er for the Pens next season, I believe it's best for him to just stay in WBS and just continue to work on his game, without having to worry about getting scratched. Plus, Simon has been a pleasant surprise on Crosby's RW.

Trades

PIT

Ryan, Derek
2018 3rd round pick (CAR)

CAR

Sheary, Conor
2019 1st round pick (PIT)

PIT

Sharp, Patrick
2018 3rd round pick (CHI)

Additional Details:

Becomes a 2019 2nd round pick (CHI) if Cole resigns with Chicago.

CHI

Cole, Ian ($1,050,000 retained)

PIT

Connauton, Kevin

ARI

2018 4th round pick (VAN)

Retained Salary Transactions

Ian Cole: $1,050,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$75,000,000	$70,427,080	$50,000	$565,000	$4,572,920

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $734,167$734,167 ($182,500$182K) LW, RW UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 8	Simon, Dominik $692,500$692,500 ($182,500$182K) RW, LW UFA - 1
Hagelin, Carl $1,875,000$1,875,000 LW UFA - 2	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Hörnqvist, Patric $4,250,000$4,250,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Rust, Bryan $640,000$640,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Ryan, Derek $1,425,000$1,425,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Kessel, Phil $6,800,000$6,800,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Kühnhackl, Tom $625,000$625,000 RW UFA - 1	Sheahan, Riley $2,075,000$2,075,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Sharp, Patrick $800,000$800,000 ($200,000$200K) LW, C NTC UFA - 1
	Rowney, Carter $612,500$612,500 C, RW UFA - 1	Reaves, Ryan $1,125,000$1,125,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD UFA - 6	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5	Murray, Matt $3,750,000$3,750,000 G UFA - 3
Määttä, Olli $3,333,225$3,333,225 LD UFA - 5	Schultz, Justin $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD UFA - 3	DeSmith, Casey $675,000$675,000 G UFA - 2
Hunwick, Matt $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD UFA - 3	Oleksiak, Jamie $964,688$964,688 LD/RD UFA - 1
Connauton, Kevin $1,000,000$1,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Ruhwedel, Chad $650,000$650,000 RD UFA - 2

Jan. 29, 2018 at 7:46 p.m.

ShafferPens

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No, that CAR isn’t a solution. Ryan is nothing more than a UFA 3C, and you are giving up Sheary AND a 1st for him? None sense. I’d give up a 2nd for him, though. He’s a good target if only Plekenac is available. If Ryan was younger and on a better contract, I’d do that trade.

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Jan. 29, 2018 at 7:47 p.m.

PhilTheThrill

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I like these trades and where you're thoughts are. I think Ryan is good, but I would almost do Sheary, a 2nd, and a 4th straight up for Ryan because I think we need to keep our 1st, or if say we are getting Sharp from the Hawks then maybe we don't need Kuhnackl or Rowney per say. Othwerwise, not bad.

Jan. 29, 2018 at 7:59 p.m.

Arom5477

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Edited Jan. 29, 2018 at 8:05 p.m.

Quoting: ShafferPens

Ryan is infinitely better than all available 3C's (which I don't understand you saying he's "just a UFA 3C". That's exactly what the team needs. Are you saying we need a 2C? 1C?) AND on a better contract (I don't know how much better of a contract you want?!?! Ryan is making 1.425 mil and producing at 2nd/3rd line pace) AND is possible to resign AND has more of an offensive upside. I don't know where your head is at Shaffer. I have honestly never seen you say a good thing about anybody's roster besides your own.

Sheary is a STREAKY player, who disappears for long periods of time (especially the playoffs). However, GM's will see his 50 point campaign, reasonable contract, and consider him a 2nd line player. Ryan will finally provide a certain 3C for the team.

Finally, every price is going to be inflated at the trade deadline ESPECIALLY to the team trying to 3-peat and has well-documented 3C problems.

Jan. 29, 2018 at 8:03 p.m.

ShafferPens

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Quoting: Arom5477

Ryan is infinitely better than Plekanec AND on a better contract AND is possible to resign AND has more of an offensive upside. Plekanec has worse possession metrics and is on pace for roughly a career low in points. I don't know where your head is at Shaffer. I have honestly never seen you say a good thing about anybody's roster besides your own.

Sheary is a STREAKY player, who disappears for long periods of time (especially the playoffs). However, GM's will see his 50 point campaign, reasonable contract, and consider him a 2nd line player. Ryan will finally provide a certain 3C for the team.

Finally, every price is going to be inflated at the trade deadline ESPECIALLY to the team trying to 3-peat and has well-documented 3C problems.

The price isn’t going to be inflated that much. I’d rather not spend Sheary+1st for a UFA.

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Jan. 29, 2018 at 8:09 p.m.

L_B_R

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The Hawks wouldn't do this proposed trade for one simple reason - they would then have no picks in the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round this next draft. That's just not a thing that Bowman would allow and he's already been talking about needing to get more picks this draft, not give them away. The management knows that this team isn't a contender this year (if they even make the playoffs at all) since half or more of it's roster is 25 or younger, so they're not likely looking for pieces like Cole unless the ask is a player straight up or the pick is from a different draft year.

Jan. 29, 2018 at 8:10 p.m.

Arom5477

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Quoting: ShafferPens

The price isn’t going to be inflated that much. I’d rather not spend Sheary+1st for a UFA.

A GM has been quoted saying to Elliotte Friedman, "I hope no one helps the Penguins." If that doesn't tell you that prices are going to be inflated, then I don't know what will.

And how do you know the Pens can't resign him? The highest he could probably make on the market is around 4 million. And with the cap reportedly going up to 82 million, that is a cap hit the Penguins would probably be fine with, considering the problems the team has had due to the lack of a competent 3C.

Jan. 29, 2018 at 8:11 p.m.

Willian_Cardoso

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Quoting: ShafferPens

now I'm with you in this one. Lol cheers

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Jan. 29, 2018 at 8:12 p.m.

Arom5477

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Quoting: Lly

Resign him and its a 2019 2nd. Its in the trade description. And CHI would probably like to sign him, considering the state of their D-core right now.

Jan. 29, 2018 at 8:37 p.m.

L_B_R

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Edited Jan. 29, 2018 at 8:42 p.m.

Quoting: Arom5477

Resign him and its a 2019 2nd. Its in the trade description. And CHI would probably like to sign him, considering the state of their D-core right now.

Yeah, I can read and was saying that's not a gamble Bowman makes - cause if they didn't sign him, they would be out a pick for 3 rounds in a row this draft. Duh, dude.

Look, you must not follow the Hawks - they have been one of the top teams in terms of quantity of picks for the last like 3-5 years. Their strategy has been: well, can't get quality with giving 1sts away for rentals, so make up for it with quantity. Bowman often trades down to get two more picks instead of taking the higher pick. And yeah, the Hawks would like an upgrade on D, but they're not going to throw away a pick on a player they can try to sign for free in the off-season. If it was for a prospect or Sharp straight up and the condition being the Pens would get an additional pick from 2019 if Cole signed, that could possible work. But the primary trade basis being on a pick in a draft the Hawks have low pick totals is so not a thing Bowman would do.

You could also just literally change the pick to 2019 3rd with the condition to be a 2nd 2019 if he signs and I'd think the trade was pretty fair. The only hang up if the possibility of losing a pick in 2018 for nothing, something Bowman isn't going to do. I think your strategy in all the trades are pretty spot on, just that one hang up on the one I'm most familiar with.

Jan. 29, 2018 at 10:53 p.m.

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Arom5477

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Quoting: Lly

Fair enough. I appreciate the input.

Jan. 29, 2018 at 10:53 p.m.

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Arom5477

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Quoting: Lly

Fair enough. I appreciate the input.

Jan. 30, 2018 at 10:35 a.m.

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That is a big overpayment for Ryan who isn't guaranteed to resign. Plus Carolina needs a center so why would they trade one who is producing for them if they are in a playoff hunt. He's 31 small and light. Not worth a top 9 winger and a 1st.

The Chicago trade won't happen because if they are sellers why would they want a rental defenseman in Cole. They would want a draft pick or prospect to build for next year on the cheap as they have salary cap issues. Sharp would be an interesting addition if chicago does go into sell mode. He has experience and is versatile. just need to switch the compensation.

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