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(DET / PHI) - 2018 cond. 4th & 2019 cond. 3rd for Mrázek (50% retained)

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Feb. 20, 2018 at 4:06 a.m.
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Even Bishop only got a 4th. Seems to me like Holland got more for less.
Feb. 20, 2018 at 8:14 a.m.
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Even Bishop only got a 4th. Seems to me like Holland got more for less.


Those were ufa rights, la wasnt gonna keep him.
Feb. 20, 2018 at 8:19 a.m.
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Helps Detroit tank, and helps Philly make the playoffs. Makes sense for both teams, but I say Philly wins.
Feb. 20, 2018 at 10:49 a.m.
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Quoting: PrinterBob17
I know the wings are in a cap crunch and probably had to make this trade, but how to you only get two mid-round conditional picks AND retain 50% salary for the rest of the season on a young starting goalie? I know he hasn't performed great this year, but he was nowhere near a lost cause.


It's not a cap issue at all. If the Wings didn't trade him, they didn't have to resign him and could spend that new found money elsewhere. From the little return that Wings got, they had no intention of resigning him.
Feb. 20, 2018 at 12:29 p.m.
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Quoting: NateElder12
Because the 50% retained is only paying like 600k and not $2M.


They each are paying 2M his contract is 4M!
Feb. 20, 2018 at 12:41 p.m.
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They each are paying 2M his contract is 4M!


@crosbynum1 you're wrong... Players aren't paid lump sums of millions. They get paychecks every week. He's already been paid almost $3M of his $4.1M salary. So they will split the actual money 50/50 which comes out to probably around 600k per team for the rest of the season. The "cap hit" is irrelevant at this point of the season since teams have banked cap space for the deadline so the 50% retention isn't as crazy as most people think..
Feb. 20, 2018 at 1:37 p.m.
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@crosbynum1 you're wrong... Players aren't paid lump sums of millions. They get paychecks every week. He's already been paid almost $3M of his $4.1M salary. So they will split the actual money 50/50 which comes out to probably around 600k per team for the rest of the season. The "cap hit" is irrelevant at this point of the season since teams have banked cap space for the deadline so the 50% retention isn't as crazy as most people think..


Ahh fair enough. I honestly completely forgot about that part. and because he's a RFA next session they really didn't retain to much. But the cap hit still counts against a teams Cap right. even tho its not what he's really paid.
Feb. 20, 2018 at 1:46 p.m.
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Ahh fair enough. I honestly completely forgot about that part. and because he's a RFA next session they really didn't retain to much. But the cap hit still counts against a teams Cap right. even tho its not what he's really paid.


yeah the cap hit does "count" so to speak, but it's irrelevant for the Wings at this point because they aren't buyers at the TDL so Hexy really didnt' have to pay that much to have them retain. Probably made the protections a little easier for DET if they retained a chunk of his salary.
Feb. 20, 2018 at 1:53 p.m.
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Fair deal. This helps Detroit tanking and Philly's playoff chances.
Feb. 20, 2018 at 3:32 p.m.
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what are the conditions
Feb. 20, 2018 at 4:44 p.m.
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Phille wins because they get Mrazek with retained salary for a 3rd and 4rd round picks at least get a 2nd for this guy and retained salary.
Feb. 20, 2018 at 5:09 p.m.
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Montoya got a 4th, Mrazek got a 4th. GO BERGEVIN!


Montreal gets a 5th unless Montoya plays more than a certain number of games, which hasn't happened yet. Besides, I don't see those trades as entirely comparable, mainly because Montoya is signed through next year at a reasonable rate, Mrazek is not and likely becomes a UFA in summer. Their NHL career stats are comparable though: Montoya has 165 gp, 2.64 gaa and 0.908 sp, while Mrazek is at 166, 2.60 and .912.
Feb. 20, 2018 at 6:14 p.m.
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Montreal gets a 5th unless Montoya plays more than a certain number of games, which hasn't happened yet. Besides, I don't see those trades as entirely comparable, mainly because Montoya is signed through next year at a reasonable rate, Mrazek is not and likely becomes a UFA in summer. Their NHL career stats are comparable though: Montoya has 165 gp, 2.64 gaa and 0.908 sp, while Mrazek is at 166, 2.60 and .912.


Montoya has one of the worst numbers on the last 5 years for an NHL goalie, Hes 34 and has injury problems
 
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