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Karlsson trade with every team

Created by: cbone
Team: 2017-18 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 23, 2018
Published: Feb. 23, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
It's been said that Pierre Dorion needs a home run (5-7 assets) to trade Erik Karlsson, here (in my opinion) is a home run scenario with each team. Obviously most of these trades wouldn't happen because of NTC, cap situations and don't believe Ottawa would trade him to a rival like MTL or TOR. However, still fun to speculate home run scenarios for Ottawa.
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Lindholm, Hampus
  2. Roy, Kevin
  3. Steel, Sam
  4. 2018 1st round pick (ANA)
  5. 2019 1st round pick (ANA)
2.
ARI
  1. Ryan, Bobby
Additional Details:
Erik Karlsson
3.
OTT
  1. Bjork, Anders
  2. Krug, Torey
  3. Senyshyn, Zach
  4. 2018 2nd round pick (BOS)
  5. 2019 1st round pick (BOS)
BOS
    Erik Karlsson
    4.
    OTT
    1. Guhle, Brendan
    2. Nylander, Alexander
    3. O'Reilly, Ryan
    4. 2018 4th round pick (BUF)
    5. 2019 1st round pick (BUF)
    BUF
      Bobby Ryan and Erik Karlsson
      5.
      CGY
        Erik Karlsson and Bobby Ryan
        6.
        OTT
        1. Faulk, Justin
        2. Necas, Martin
        3. Skinner, Jeff
        4. 2018 1st round pick (CAR)
        5. 2019 1st round pick (CAR)
        CAR
          Erik Karlsson and Bobby Ryan
          7.
          OTT
          1. DeBrincat, Alex
          2. Forsling, Gustav
          3. 2018 1st round pick (CHI)
          4. 2019 1st round pick (CHI)
          5. 2019 3rd round pick (CHI)
          CHI
            Erik Karlsson
            8.
            OTT
            1. Barrie, Tyson
            2. Compher, J.T.
            3. Jost, Tyson
            4. 2018 1st round pick (OTT)
            5. 2018 2nd round pick (COL)
            COL
              Erik Karlsson and Bobby Ryan
              9.
              OTT
              1. Korpisalo, Joonas
              2. Milano, Sonny
              3. Nutivaara, Markus
              4. Wennberg, Alexander
              5. 2018 1st round pick (CBJ)
              6. 2018 3rd round pick (CBJ)
              7. 2019 1st round pick (CBJ)
              CBJ
              1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
              Additional Details:
              Erik Karlsson
              10.
              OTT
              1. Gurianov, Denis
              2. Heiskanen, Miro
              3. Honka, Julius
              4. 2018 1st round pick (DAL)
              5. 2019 1st round pick (DAL)
              DAL
                Erik Karlsson
                11.
                OTT
                1. Athanasiou, Andreas
                2. Bertuzzi, Tyler
                3. Hronek, Filip
                4. McIlrath, Dylan
                5. 2018 2nd round pick (DET)
                6. 2019 1st round pick (DET)
                DET
                  Erik karlsson
                  12.
                  OTT
                  1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
                  2. Nurse, Darnell
                  3. Puljujärvi, Jesse
                  4. 2018 2nd round pick (EDM)
                  5. 2019 1st round pick (EDM)
                  EDM
                    Erik Karlsson and Bobby Ryan
                    13.
                    OTT
                    1. McCoshen, Ian
                    2. Montembeault, Samuel
                    3. Petrovic, Alex
                    4. Tippett, Owen
                    5. 2018 1st round pick (FLA)
                    6. 2019 1st round pick (FLA)
                    FLA
                      Erik Karlsson
                      14.
                      OTT
                      1. Anderson-Dolan, Jaret
                      2. Kempe, Adrian
                      3. LaDue, Paul
                      4. 2018 1st round pick (LAK)
                      5. 2019 1st round pick (LAK)
                      LAK
                        Erik Karlsson
                        15.
                        OTT
                        1. Dumba, Matt
                        2. Eriksson Ek, Joel
                        3. Olofsson, Gustav
                        4. 2018 1st round pick (MIN)
                        5. 2019 1st round pick (MIN)
                        MIN
                          Erik Karlsson
                          16.
                          OTT
                          1. Drouin, Jonathan
                          2. Juulsen, Noah
                          3. Mete, Victor
                          4. 2018 2nd round pick (MTL)
                          5. 2019 1st round pick (MTL)
                          MTL
                          1. Brassard, Derick
                          Additional Details:
                          Erik Karlsson
                          17.
                          OTT
                          1. Carrier, Alexandre
                          2. Ellis, Ryan
                          3. 2018 3rd round pick (NSH)
                          4. 2019 1st round pick (NSH)
                          5. 2019 2nd round pick (NSH)
                          Additional Details:
                          Eeli Tolvanen
                          NSH
                            Erik Karlsson
                            18.
                            OTT
                            1. Butcher, Will
                            2. Kinkaid, Keith
                            3. Zacha, Pavel
                            4. 2018 1st round pick (NJD)
                            5. 2019 1st round pick (NJD)
                            NJD
                              Erik Karlsson and Bobby Ryan
                              19.
                              OTT
                              1. Barzal, Mathew
                              2. De Haan, Calvin
                              3. Halák, Jaroslav
                              4. Ho-Sang, Joshua
                              5. 2018 1st round pick (NYI)
                              6. 2019 1st round pick (NYI)
                              NYI
                              1. Anderson, Craig
                              Additional Details:
                              Erik Karlsson
                              20.
                              OTT
                              1. Chytil, Filip
                              2. Deangelo, Anthony
                              3. McDonagh, Ryan
                              4. 2018 2nd round pick (NYR)
                              5. 2019 1st round pick (NYR)
                              NYR
                                Erik Karlsson
                                21.
                                OTT
                                1. Hart, Carter
                                2. Konecny, Travis
                                3. Sanheim, Travis
                                4. 2018 2nd round pick (PHI)
                                5. 2019 1st round pick (PHI)
                                PHI
                                  Erik Karlsson
                                  22.
                                  OTT
                                  1. Jarry, Tristan
                                  2. Letang, Kris
                                  3. Sprong, Daniel
                                  4. 2018 1st round pick (PIT)
                                  5. 2019 1st round pick (PIT)
                                  PIT
                                  1. Condon, Mike
                                  Additional Details:
                                  Erik Karlsson
                                  23.
                                  OTT
                                  1. Dillon, Brenden
                                  2. Meier, Timo
                                  3. Ryan, Joakim
                                  4. 2018 1st round pick (SJS)
                                  5. 2019 1st round pick (SJS)
                                  SJS
                                    Erik Karlsson
                                    24.
                                    OTT
                                    1. Dunn, Vince
                                    2. Kyrou, Jordan
                                    3. Schwartz, Jaden
                                    4. Thomas, Robert
                                    5. 2018 3rd round pick (STL)
                                    6. 2019 1st round pick (STL)
                                    STL
                                      Erik Karlsson and Derrick Brassard
                                      25.
                                      OTT
                                      1. Point, Brayden
                                      2. Raddysh, Taylor
                                      3. Sergachev, Mikhail
                                      4. 2018 2nd round pick (TBL)
                                      5. 2019 1st round pick (TBL)
                                      TBL
                                        Erik Karlsson
                                        26.
                                        OTT
                                        1. Dermott, Travis
                                        2. Kapanen, Kasperi
                                        3. Marner, Mitchell
                                        4. 2018 2nd round pick (TOR)
                                        5. 2019 1st round pick (TOR)
                                        TOR
                                          Erik Karlsson
                                          27.
                                          OTT
                                          1. Demko, Thatcher
                                          2. Gudbranson, Erik
                                          3. Juolevi, Olli
                                          4. 2018 1st round pick (VAN)
                                          5. 2019 1st round pick (VAN)
                                          VAN
                                            Erik Karlsson
                                            28.
                                            OTT
                                            1. Glass, Cody
                                            2. Neal, James
                                            3. Theodore, Shea
                                            4. 2018 2nd round pick (VGK)
                                            5. 2019 1st round pick (VGK)
                                            6. 2019 2nd round pick (VGK)
                                            VGK
                                              Erik Karlsson and Bobby Ryan
                                              29.
                                              OTT
                                              1. Bäckström, Nicklas
                                              2. Orpik, Brooks
                                              3. Vrána, Jakub
                                              4. 2018 2nd round pick (FLA)
                                              5. 2019 1st round pick (WSH)
                                              WSH
                                                Erik Karlsson and Bobby Ryan
                                                30.
                                                OTT
                                                1. Lemieux, Brendan
                                                2. Roslovic, Jack
                                                3. Trouba, Jacob
                                                4. 2018 2nd round pick (WPG)
                                                5. 2018 5th round pick (WPG)
                                                6. 2019 1st round pick (WPG)
                                                WPG
                                                  Erik Karlsson
                                                  Retained Salary Transactions
                                                  DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
                                                  2018
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                                                  ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
                                                  113$75,000,000$209,660,224$0$23,997,500-$134,660,224
                                                  Left WingCentreRight Wing
                                                  $5,187,500$5,187,500
                                                  LW
                                                  M-NTC
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $6,000,000$6,000,000
                                                  RW, C
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $894,166$894,166
                                                  RW, LW
                                                  RFA - 4
                                                  $4,650,000$4,650,000
                                                  LW
                                                  M-NTC
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $3,250,000$3,250,000
                                                  LW, C
                                                  M-NTC
                                                  UFA - 4
                                                  $4,875,000$4,875,000
                                                  RW
                                                  UFA - 4
                                                  $800,000$800,000
                                                  LW, RW
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $1,800,000$1,800,000
                                                  LW, RW, C
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $3,500,000$3,500,000
                                                  RW
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $650,000$650,000
                                                  LW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $1,100,000$1,100,000
                                                  C
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
                                                  RW
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
                                                  C, RW
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $2,500,000$2,500,000
                                                  RW, LW
                                                  M-NTC
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
                                                  RW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
                                                  LW, RW
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                  C
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $692,500$692,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                  RW, LW
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $5,725,000$5,725,000
                                                  LW, RW
                                                  NMC
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                  C, LW
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                  LW, RW
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
                                                  LW, RW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $894,166$894,166
                                                  C, LW
                                                  RFA - 4
                                                  $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$750,000$750K)
                                                  LW, RW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
                                                  RW, LW
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$2,475,000$2M)
                                                  C
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                  RW, LW
                                                  UFA - 5
                                                  $661,667$661,667 (Performance Bonus$207,500$208K)
                                                  LW, RW
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
                                                  RW, C
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $864,166$864,166
                                                  RW
                                                  RFA - 4
                                                  $5,500,000$5,500,000
                                                  LW, RW
                                                  UFA - 6
                                                  $1,875,000$1,875,000
                                                  C
                                                  UFA - 6
                                                  $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
                                                  RW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
                                                  RW, LW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $1,950,000$1,950,000
                                                  C
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $863,333$863,333
                                                  RW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $5,350,000$5,350,000
                                                  LW
                                                  UFA - 4
                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                  RW
                                                  RFA - 5
                                                  $5,000,000$5,000,000
                                                  RW, LW
                                                  M-NTC
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $885,833$885,833 (Performance Bonus$662,500$662K)
                                                  C
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
                                                  LW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$75,000$75K)
                                                  C, RW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $839,167$839,167 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
                                                  LW, RW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $4,900,000$4,900,000
                                                  C
                                                  UFA - 6
                                                  $1,387,500$1,387,500
                                                  LW, RW
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $6,000,000$6,000,000
                                                  LW, C
                                                  UFA - 4
                                                  $894,167$894,167
                                                  LW, RW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $759,166$759,166
                                                  C, LW, RW
                                                  RFA - 5
                                                  $894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
                                                  C
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
                                                  C, LW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
                                                  C, RW
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                  C, LW
                                                  UFA - 4
                                                  $772,500$772,500
                                                  RW
                                                  UFA - 4
                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                  C, RW
                                                  UFA - 4
                                                  $686,667$686,667 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
                                                  C, RW
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                  C, RW
                                                  RFA - 5
                                                  $6,700,000$6,700,000
                                                  C
                                                  M-NTC
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
                                                  C, RW
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                                                  $1,100,000$1,100,000
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $1,250,000$1,250,000
                                                  G
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,250,000$1M)
                                                  LD
                                                  M-NTC
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $2,800,000$2,800,000
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $725,000$725,000
                                                  G
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$360,000$360K)
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $800,000$800,000
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $900,000$900,000
                                                  G
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $653,333$653,333 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $725,833$725,833 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                  G
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $650,000$650,000
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $4,500,000$4,500,000
                                                  G
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $2,602,778$2,602,778
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 5
                                                  $761,666$761,666
                                                  G
                                                  RFA - 4
                                                  $5,500,000$5,500,000
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $630,833$630,833 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
                                                  G
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $5,250,000$5,250,000
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
                                                  G
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $755,833$755,833 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $3,500,000$3,500,000
                                                  RD
                                                  M-NTC
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $4,150,000$4,150,000
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $872,500$872,500
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $2,750,000$2,750,000
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $817,500$817,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
                                                  LD/RD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                  LD/RD
                                                  UFA - 4
                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $728,333$728,333
                                                  RD
                                                  RFA - 4
                                                  $650,000$650,000
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$100,000$100K)
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $1,850,000$1,850,000
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $874,125$874,125
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $2,550,000$2,550,000
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $725,000$725,000
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                  LD/RD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $863,333$863,333
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $688,333$688,333 (Performance Bonus$10,000$10K)
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $2,500,000$2,500,000
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $3,300,000$3,300,000
                                                  LD/RD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $4,700,000$4,700,000
                                                  LD
                                                  M-NTC
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
                                                  LD/RD
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $7,250,000$7,250,000
                                                  RD
                                                  M-NTC, NMC
                                                  UFA - 5
                                                  $650,000$650,000
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $1,635,000$1,635,000
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $722,500$722,500 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
                                                  LD/RD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
                                                  LD/RD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $863,333$863,333
                                                  LD/RD
                                                  UFA - 3
                                                  $894,166$894,166
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 4
                                                  $3,500,000$3,500,000
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $863,333$863,333
                                                  LD/RD
                                                  UFA - 1
                                                  $5,500,000$5,500,000
                                                  LD
                                                  UFA - 2
                                                  $2,812,500$2,812,500
                                                  RD
                                                  UFA - 1

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                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 11:58 a.m.
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                                                  Wouldn't trade Hampus Lindholm straight up for Erik Karlsson, let alone adding to the mix. I would try to get this deal from ANA, if you can:

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                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 12:00 p.m.
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                                                  Not saying Ottawa would do that, but the Islanders aren't trading Barzal, sorry.
                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 12:03 p.m.
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                                                  Quoting: phillyjabroni
                                                  Wouldn't trade Hampus Lindholm straight up for Erik Karlsson, let alone adding to the mix. I would try to get this deal from ANA, if you can:

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                                                  Erik Karlsson

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                                                  Ondrej Kase
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                                                  Sorry, what? Why would Anaheim do this? This is a good return but it's a 2nd pairing defenseman, a 3rd line forward who can bring some offence, and a good but not great prospect (pretty valuable package) for ... wait, sorry, i forgot, it's for a top 5 NHL player in the league, or at least top 10. Sorry, yeah, it's Ottawa who doesn't do this, though from Anaheim i'd take it right away. Even if Ottawa made Karlsson available (which i'm not sure if he'd become very available), i still don't think they'd do this. This is a good package, yes, but it's not what you need to give up to get a superstar.
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                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 12:03 p.m.
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                                                  Quoting: rangersandislesfan
                                                  Not saying Ottawa would do that, but the Islanders aren't trading Barzal, sorry.

                                                  Getting EK would go a long way in convincing JT they are ready to win now. Other than Barzal, Islanders don't have many enticing prospects for a home run scenario for Ottawa.
                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 12:05 p.m.
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                                                  these are all major over payments, especially the ones with Ryan involved.
                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 12:08 p.m.
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                                                  Quoting: LGBstl
                                                  these are all major over payments, especially the ones with Ryan involved.

                                                  It will take an overpayment for Dorion to trade Karlsson. 6 months ago he was being talk about as a top 3 player in the world, won't get traded for anything less than a home run. Even with Ryan attached it brings package down from 7 to 5 assets
                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 12:10 p.m.
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                                                  It will take an overpayment for Dorion to trade Karlsson. 6 months ago he was being talk about as a top 3 player in the world, won't get traded for anything less than a home run. Even with Ryan attached it brings package down from 7 to 5 assets


                                                  Agreed, but not the best 5 assets each team has lol.
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                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 12:22 p.m.
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                                                  You're a little bit over the salary cap!
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                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 12:22 p.m.
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                                                  Yeah from the Flyers that's a hard no. And I suspect you'll find the same from a lot of teams, gutting the prospect farm and or current roster is a sideways move at best for most teams. As good as Karlsson is he's just one player. The Flyers aren't giving up 3 of their top 5 prospects plus a first pick.

                                                  Dorion can demand what he wants but really I suspect he's looking at best case 2 good prospects / young NHLers, 2 first round picks, and maybe a middling prospect for Karlsson. If Ryan is involved then there will almost certainly be a cap dump or two heading back to Ottawa and maybe another middling prospect/pick or two. That's where the the trade gets to 7 pieces comes in, not for Karlsson straight up.
                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 12:35 p.m.
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                                                  Quoting: CaptJosef
                                                  Yeah from the Flyers that's a hard no. And I suspect you'll find the same from a lot of teams, gutting the prospect farm and or current roster is a sideways move at best for most teams. As good as Karlsson is he's just one player. The Flyers aren't giving up 3 of their top 5 prospects plus a first pick.

                                                  Dorion can demand what he wants but really I suspect he's looking at best case 2 good prospects / young NHLers, 2 first round picks, and maybe a middling prospect for Karlsson. If Ryan is involved then there will almost certainly be a cap dump or two heading back to Ottawa and maybe another middling prospect/pick or two. That's where the the trade gets to 7 pieces comes in, not for Karlsson straight up.


                                                  I agree on what the trade will most likely come down to, but to start talks Dorion will most likely have asks similar to this. He'd start the demand with a top level forward and defense prospect/young NHLer, 2 1st round picks, another A level prospect and a R-hand D to replace EK in short term.
                                                  The trade situations above are all best case scenarios for Ottawa which is the only way I think they can justify trading their franchise player
                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 1:00 p.m.
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                                                  You're a little bit over the salary cap!


                                                  lol
                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 1:02 p.m.
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                                                  That is a massive hard pass from the Flyers!
                                                  Feb. 23, 2018 at 1:08 p.m.
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                                                  Quoting: rangersandislesfan
                                                  Sorry, what? Why would Anaheim do this? This is a good return but it's a 2nd pairing defenseman, a 3rd line forward who can bring some offence, and a good but not great prospect (pretty valuable package) for ... wait, sorry, i forgot, it's for a top 5 NHL player in the league, or at least top 10. Sorry, yeah, it's Ottawa who doesn't do this, though from Anaheim i'd take it right away. Even if Ottawa made Karlsson available (which i'm not sure if he'd become very available), i still don't think they'd do this. This is a good package, yes, but it's not what you need to give up to get a superstar.


                                                  Your not taking into account any context whatsoever. Trade Value is different than Playing Value.

                                                  Kase is in the top 20 for WAR/GAR for forwards and is a primary point, 5v5 machine.

                                                  If I was OTT, I would consider this as one of the best offers
                                                   
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