why would the isles let de haan walk when they desperately need help on the back end?

De Haan is a UFA, why would he stay if Tavares is leaving? It is his time to hit the bank.

isles will do everything to keep him. he can hit the bank with the isles too. if tavares leaves, they still have barzal, and 2 potential lottery picks. plus de haans not a top pairing d-man

Forget about Vanek. He's not coming back. I agree for most of this.

Tavares and Kulemin contracts would liberate 10M$+ but De Haan would have an oportunity to come closer to home (Carp/Ottawa) and live the rock star life of a Cdn franchise. There is no signs of a better life or contract by staying with NYI. In my view it is plausible.
I do respect your opinion but I would like to read your arguments for him signing back with NYI.

I agree Vanek does not have a chance at coming back as long Bergevin is there. Doing so would make him lose face. The alternative is Perron at the same price, but Vanek is a pure talent and not so much with Perron.

not saying i agree or disagree but i dont know a single GM that would these moves whether they wanted it or not .
an overall that big usually comes with ownership change like how Molson screwed us when he bought the team with the first move being the Gomez trade that screwed us hard
(imagine if we had Mcdonugh-Subban Markov-Gorges Boullion-Brisbois n 2008 then no need to draft to busted LD trying to replace Mcdonugh either )

Bergevin came with the arguments everyone was hoping for.
Built with drafting like Chicago did;
Built with a logic pattern like building from the rear, goaltender, defense, center then wingers
Everyone taught he was the solution.
In my view, UFA is a good source of fixing a bad team if you are a good freezer seller in Alaska.
Iknow he doesn't have the balls to do a quick fix and win a Stanley cup, but as a fan, I cannot stay quiet.
So I make up teams on this site hoping to influence the direction.
Bergevin has been figuring plausible transaction on video games before, so him or his staff might be taking a peak here every once in a while.
As a fan, I cannot give up and become just a spectator. What you think?

That's the right value for Jordie, but not from Dallas. Yes his brother is there, but they already have 7 guys that will be in the NHL next year, and another couple that are right on the doorstep. He simply just wouldn't fit on their blue line, and the talent they have there is better than what he'd bring to the table.

Thanks, finally a fan bringing valuable info about a playar.

Tis what I am here for. Personally, I liked Benn when he was in Dallas. He got the short end of the stick because of the fact that his partner was often an offensive defenseman with very little defensive acumen, leaving him exposed to a lot of odd man breaks. I'll be honest and say that I haven't watched him much in Montreal, but with the likes of Klingberg, Methot, Lindell, Heiskanen, Johns, Honka, and Heatherington it would be very difficult to squeeze him in there somewhere. It would delay the development of guys like Honka, Heiskanen, and Heatherington. Like I said, not a bad deal...just may be more suited for a different organization.

de Haan can leave. The isles don’t really need him. They need top pairing guys, not second pairing or even bottom pairing guys. That’s not to mention the clear injury problems. He seems like a guy who will cash out rather than winning, but coming off a pretty serious injury, it’d be a mistake for any team to go long term right now, especially considering CDH only turned a corner two seasons ago

Remove the Alzner thing. I think its accurate at 0$. Its a credit in the first year of the buyout but every year afterwards is an amount on the cap.

the isles deperately need help on defense. they literally have one of the worst defense in the league. dehaan is a guy they drafted. they'll do everything in their power to keep him. also, mtl doesnt need a guy like him. his a good defensive d-man with a decent first pass. he's by no means a top pairing D. i understand that at the end of the day, free agents have a choice to stay or leave, but why would u let someone in a postion walk, which is an organizational weakness.

the isles deperately need help on defense. they literally have one of the worst defense in the league. dehaan is a guy they drafted. they'll do everything in their power to keep him. also, mtl doesnt need a guy like him. his a good defensive d-man with a decent first pass. he's by no means a top pairing D. i understand that at the end of the day, free agents have a choice to stay or leave, but why would u let someone in a postion walk, which is an organizational weakness.

the isles deperately need help on defense. they literally have one of the worst defense in the league. dehaan is a guy they drafted. they'll do everything in their power to keep him. also, mtl doesnt need a guy like him. his a good defensive d-man with a decent first pass. he's by no means a top pairing D. i understand that at the end of the day, free agents have a choice to stay or leave, but why would u let someone in a postion walk, which is an organizational weakness.

Bergervin like his former co-worker in CHI Kevin Cheveldayoff will only get respect in the next year or two .
that being said Kevin had the nuts to move out most of the players that were not a part of his new core out and landed a kings ransom
Bergervin had that chance with Subban with PHI offer sheet that would have given us two 1st , 2nd and a 3rd(those 2 firsts were used to draft Koenechy and Provorov a Center and D we've needed for a while now )

if Timmons wasnt getting premoted straight to the top the last 4 years replacing old era staff with new then i'd be discouraged to but with Crawford running the scouting , Timmons running Development and MB as GM we are atleast not going to go out trading the youth we've consistently built up since 2014 when the rebuild really started behind the seens with Timmons getting his first management position (before this is was just a top scout for Gauthier and Gainey )


really if MB would have moved out Beaulieu ,Tinordi ,Emelin and Plekanec before they lost their Value we would have been in the best position .
that being said the package we landed for Plekanec was Far More then any expert or even Arm Chair GM ever expected (the same cant be said for Tinordi or Beaulieu)
MB completely rebuilt our LD twice now because of his lack of testicles including dumping every LD but Markov including Diaz the 7th D and rebuilt around Beaulieu,Emelin ,Gilbert just to again 2 years later start from scratch.

my biggest issue is Molsons interferance from staffing to trades he has blocked
he's been a complete drag on this team and not a single free agent top 6 center has even though about playing here since Mr Gillette sold