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If Trouba doesn't want to sign long term??

Created by: chezyldayoff
Team: 2018-19 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: May 10, 2018
Published: May 14, 2018
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Not saying this has a chance of happening....just creating hypothetical options to maximize value for Trouba if he doesn't want to be here long term. Looking for teams that have a young D with upside and/or would be looking to shake up the roster.

Buffalo needs a culture change and would likely drool at the prospect of a Dahlin-Trouba top pair. Little <O Reilley so we'd need to sweeten the pot (and we'd need Little to not include Buffalo on NT list). Like I said....highly unlikely but still fun to look at what our roster would look like.

in 2019 offseason we'd need to move Perrault, let Mason and Chiarot walk, and likely bridge Connor, give Copp a short term deal, to have enough cash to sign Wheeler and Laine to big deals.
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May 14, 2018 at 1:54 p.m.
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You need to find a way to dump Kulikov and Buf should retain some $ on ROR
May 14, 2018 at 1:59 p.m.
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GMBots says no thank you...... not interested in Little as the term is scary..... Risto is not moving.....
May 14, 2018 at 2:01 p.m.
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You need to find a way to dump Kulikov and Buf should retain some $ on ROR


Yea, buffalo isnt retaining unless the secondary pieces are better
May 14, 2018 at 2:09 p.m.
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Maybe send myers to buffalo instead and send a 3rd/4th round pick back to even it up.. will also open cap room for jets

and have def lines
Morrissey-Ristolainen
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May 14, 2018 at 2:16 p.m.
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the sabres trade doesn't solve the cap issue with the jets. risto's term makes him more attractive and ROR age and play makes him a better value. just don't see what's in for the sabres.
if trouba is a valuable member of the jets, you can keep him and if he walks as ufa, why worry. ufas come and go all the time.
myers for gardiner seems fair
May 14, 2018 at 2:23 p.m.
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GMBots is at least listening now that you have mentioned Myers in the deal..... but still have an issue with Little's term as it takes him until he is 36...... still a no but at least can keep talking..... I actually think that GMBots has no desire to trade Risto or ROR.... it will take a real sweet deal for him to move on either one of them.... I just do not see teams being willing to overpay for ROR or Risto.
May 14, 2018 at 3:03 p.m.
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Yeah this is not in Buffalo’s best interest. If you think trouba is a more valuable player than Risto as I do, then settle that difference via draft picks and prospects. Little doesn’t interest buffalo
May 14, 2018 at 3:26 p.m.
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Would Winnipeg fans accept a Nurse-for-Trouba trade straight up?

Or this? https://capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/688050
May 14, 2018 at 4:19 p.m.
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How about Trouba, Mason, WPG 2nd for Ristolainen and BUF 2nd (32OA). Should free up more than enough space for a Stastny who can give you the same role and impact of a ROR.
May 14, 2018 at 6:35 p.m.
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CAR offers Faulk + Saarela + 2018 7Rd pick to WPG for Trouba
May 15, 2018 at 10:54 a.m.
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Quoting: clark
the sabres trade doesn't solve the cap issue with the jets. risto's term makes him more attractive and ROR age and play makes him a better value. just don't see what's in for the sabres.
if trouba is a valuable member of the jets, you can keep him and if he walks as ufa, why worry. ufas come and go all the time.
myers for gardiner seems fair


"UFA's come and go all the time" .....that's hilarious.
So GM's should just be ok with 25 year old #1 D just walking out the door for nothing?
May 15, 2018 at 4:09 p.m.
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"UFA's come and go all the time" .....that's hilarious.
So GM's should just be ok with 25 year old #1 D just walking out the door for nothing?


sorry if haven't been following pro sports. here's a lesson. what every year there are about 3 UFAs per team....that as July 1 are UFAs. every TDL, teams trade futures to get that one or two upcoming ufas, that will put them over the top for a long playoff run. there are not 80 trades of upcoming ufas, because teams are so desperately crazy to trade all the ufa, before they "walk for nothing". gee, they would likely all be ufas even if they traded so there are always ufas...walking.
so my logic is valid. come winter 2020 and the jets are on a cup run and trouba is valuable member of the team, yea, he likely doesn't get traded.
now my opinion is that trouba's trade value will never be higher than it is now...summer of 2018, and I expect trouba will be traded this summer.
I know of a site like this, so many uninformed think they have to make trades...for trade value. but teams are still trying to win and don't necessarily play GM just to make trades so ufas don't walk for free. for you to think otherwise, now that's hilarious.
May 18, 2018 at 10:07 a.m.
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Quoting: clark
sorry if haven't been following pro sports. here's a lesson. what every year there are about 3 UFAs per team....that as July 1 are UFAs. every TDL, teams trade futures to get that one or two upcoming ufas, that will put them over the top for a long playoff run. there are not 80 trades of upcoming ufas, because teams are so desperately crazy to trade all the ufa, before they "walk for nothing". gee, they would likely all be ufas even if they traded so there are always ufas...walking.
so my logic is valid. come winter 2020 and the jets are on a cup run and trouba is valuable member of the team, yea, he likely doesn't get traded.
now my opinion is that trouba's trade value will never be higher than it is now...summer of 2018, and I expect trouba will be traded this summer.
I know of a site like this, so many uninformed think they have to make trades...for trade value. but teams are still trying to win and don't necessarily play GM just to make trades so ufas don't walk for free. for you to think otherwise, now that's hilarious.


agree to disagree. Find me ONE instance where a player of Trouba's value and age was allowed to walk out the door as a UFA after his RFA years.
May 18, 2018 at 4:25 p.m.
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agree to disagree. Find me ONE instance where a player of Trouba's value and age was allowed to walk out the door as a UFA after his RFA years.


your last phrase makes zero sense. of course trouba is going to be signed as rfa for the next two years as a jet or traded. it's in 2020 that he eligible to be a ufa, and YES, ufas walk all the time...

just try just try reading what I wrote, instead of making stuff up to appease your venom.

I wrote. "so my logic is valid. come winter 2020 and the jets are on a cup run and trouba is valuable member of the team, yea, he likely doesn't get traded." exactly as I wrote.

in your posts your said let mason and chairot walk in as ufa gee try thinking straight. just because I said ufas walk all the time (factually correct), you think it's hilarious, but when you write it, about mason and chariot...you think you're brilliant.
May 18, 2018 at 4:32 p.m.
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Would Winnipeg fans accept a Nurse-for-Trouba trade straight up?

Or this? https://capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/688050
May 22, 2018 at 10:15 a.m.
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Quoting: clark
your last phrase makes zero sense. of course trouba is going to be signed as rfa for the next two years as a jet or traded. it's in 2020 that he eligible to be a ufa, and YES, ufas walk all the time...

just try just try reading what I wrote, instead of making stuff up to appease your venom.

I wrote. "so my logic is valid. come winter 2020 and the jets are on a cup run and trouba is valuable member of the team, yea, he likely doesn't get traded." exactly as I wrote.

in your posts your said let mason and chairot walk in as ufa gee try thinking straight. just because I said ufas walk all the time (factually correct), you think it's hilarious, but when you write it, about mason and chariot...you think you're brilliant.


whoa there Clarky.... seems like we are on different wave lengths and likely won't ever see eye on eye (which is fine). But for the record - Chiarot and Mason walking as a UFA is not even in the same ballpark as a player like Trouba walking out the door
May 22, 2018 at 10:21 a.m.
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Quoting: CD282
Would Winnipeg fans accept a Nurse-for-Trouba trade straight up?

Or this? https://capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/688050


If we knew that Trouba didn't want to sign long term that is deal we'd likely consider.

Would Edmonton consider?

Myers (you could negotiate extension) + Lemieux = Kelfbom

That deal makes a ton of sense for Wpg...and Edmonton gets some much needed help on the right side of the defence and a young fast skilled middle six forward on an ELC with some grit (much needed as well.) We'd toss in Dano for good measure wink
May 22, 2018 at 10:29 a.m.
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whoa there Clarky.... seems like we are on different wave lengths and likely won't ever see eye on eye (which is fine). But for the record - Chiarot and Mason walking as a UFA is not even in the same ballpark as a player like Trouba walking out the door


Yeah Im sure the NYI are fine if Tavares leaves for nothing. Thems' the breaks sometimes.......rolling eyes

Anyhoo, Wasn't Trouba's only real beef with not playing his natural side and wanted better minutes? He's getting that now and plays for a real good team. Unless he is absolutely dead set about playing for hometown Detroit, not sure why he would leave if the money he'll get is what he deserves.
May 22, 2018 at 10:48 a.m.
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Yeah Im sure the NYI are fine if Tavares leaves for nothing. Thems' the breaks sometimes.......rolling eyes

Anyhoo, Wasn't Trouba's only real beef with not playing his natural side and wanted better minutes? He's getting that now and plays for a real good team. Unless he is absolutely dead set about playing for hometown Detroit, not sure why he would leave if the money he'll get is what he deserves.


Living in the market here pretty much everyone feels the Trouba situation is a little more sticky than just him "wanting to play his natural side"....that was the narrative his agent tried to use to save face and leverage public opinion. It didn't work at all....fans saw right through it and the public consensus was he wanted to play in the States.

However, it seems like a deep playoff run and a team trending up as the current rumors are that wants to sign an extension. Hope that's true.
May 22, 2018 at 11:32 a.m.
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Living in the market here pretty much everyone feels the Trouba situation is a little more sticky than just him "wanting to play his natural side"....that was the narrative his agent tried to use to save face and leverage public opinion. It didn't work at all....fans saw right through it and the public consensus was he wanted to play in the States.

However, it seems like a deep playoff run and a team trending up as the current rumors are that wants to sign an extension. Hope that's true.


Hmm If that's the case, this off season will be prime time to move him. Teams would be getting him after a solid playoff run and get to sign him to their own contract.
May 22, 2018 at 6:40 p.m.
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whoa there Clarky.... seems like we are on different wave lengths and likely won't ever see eye on eye (which is fine). But for the record - Chiarot and Mason walking as a UFA is not even in the same ballpark as a player like Trouba walking out the door


OK let's imagine Trouba doesn't sign long term with the Jets, but he is still a member of Jets next year and the year after. Come TDL 2020 at the Jets are in Cup contention, do they trade Trouba just because he an upcoming UFA.
Teams trade for upcoming UFAs all the time for a playoff boost, they usually don't trade them If you think the Jets as Cup contenders trade their upcoming UFAs so be it. But I do agree with FMarco, the Jets probably get the best trade value for Trouba this summer.
May 23, 2018 at 10:04 a.m.
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OK let's imagine Trouba doesn't sign long term with the Jets, but he is still a member of Jets next year and the year after. Come TDL 2020 at the Jets are in Cup contention, do they trade Trouba just because he an upcoming UFA.
Teams trade for upcoming UFAs all the time for a playoff boost, they usually don't trade them If you think the Jets as Cup contenders trade their upcoming UFAs so be it. But I do agree with FMarco, the Jets probably get the best trade value for Trouba this summer.


Ok ....we can find some common ground somewhere. I agree....if Trouba signed a 2 year deal this summer and in 2020 we were a contender we wouldn't trade him at the deadline.

All i'm saying is that the Jets management will NEVER put themselves in that spot. We will know very shortly IF he wants to stay here long term. If he does, we sign him to a 5-8 year deal. If he and his agent will only consider a 1 or 2 year deal we WILL trade him this offseason or next.. His trade value is sky high after a solid playoffs and he would bring back a kings ransom....Chevy is far too smart to let this drag out for another 2 years and risk losing him for nothing.
 
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