The only reason why MTL would do something like that... it will be to get Mantha + Wings 1st for 3OA... maybe adding Carr or Lekhonen.

I think something like that is possible.

I would do this trade but swapping Mantha and Galchenyuk

The General Manager of the "Montreal" Mark Bergevin said that the club does not intend to exchange the 3rd choice for the upcoming draft pick in 2018.

they all say that...! to increase the bid.
I am from MTL :-)

Mantha & Galchenyuk as the same value...so you can't request 3OA for 6OA... or you need to add-in Nyquist?
Nyq, Mantha + 6OA for Chucky + 3OA

Sure that will free up some cap space

Good trick

Montreal would do that in a heartbeat. What are you even talking about? Moving down 2 spots only and get another 1st and two 2nds? DETROIT wouldn't do this.

They would get another 1st but it's a late 1st and two picks in the 2nd. This isn't the NFL. Picks that go late first and on don't become great players in the league anymore. It happens but not that often these days. Moving up from 6 to 3 is a huge increase in talent in this draft. At least if you want a forward. Most of the dman in the top 10 seem pretty close.

Late 1st round picks:

2015 - Boeser, Konecny, Beauvillier
2014 - Pastrnak, Kempe, McCann
2013 - Hartman, Theodore, Burakovsky
2012 - Pearson, Skjei, Matheson
2011 - Rackell, Namestnikov, Danault

3rd overall??

2015 - Strome
2014 - Draisatl
2013 - Drouin
2012 - Galchenyuk
2011 - Huberdeau


6th overall:

2015 - Zacha
2014 - Virtanen
2013 - Monahan
2012 - Lindholm
2011 - Zibanejad



Ummm yeah I'll take the picks any day of the week. I didn't even do the two 2nd rounders. You are right this isn't the NFL, the NHL is full of players not drafted in the top 3 who are superstars also. Moving down to 6th is not a big deal as the Habs would certainly get a positional need instead of the BPA. they could take Wahlstrom, Kotkaniemi, Veleno, Tkachuk etc and then have 3 other pciks to land another good player. That's why Detroit WONT do it. They aren't giving that all away just to draft another players brother, even if he will be a good player. Boqvist, Bouchard or whoever they take at 6 will also be a really good player. Not too mention the 3 other picks they'd have.


The jump from 6th to 3rd is only big if you need a skilled winger. Otherwise your just getting a good young player at a position that is the easiest to find without having to draft that talent. (winger) We're not talking about Ovechkin talent here. Svechnikov and Zadina are good but they aren't that good. (Most likely)

I get your point but to be far: Add Toews 3 OA... All 3OA are great 60pts+ type of player.
Low 1st: yes every year you get some good surprise= 3 example per year out of 20 picks... how many never played NHL... 3x more! still a high risk by percentage.
Same with any top 10 higher than 3... probably 20% of them would have a great impact like 50-60pts... Other 80% would be MID 6 forward as example... not TOP line.
But I agree... it depends of the needs... if Svech fall down 3OA... I could seriously see Detroit doing a crazy move like that.
Save $$$ Nyq, Mantha RFA, 6OA for Chucky+ 3OA.
Det line would look like:
AA- Zett- Chucky
Svech LW- Larkin- Svech RW
Bertz- Neilsen- Abdel

I agree

If you want to cherry pick a 3OA I can cherry pick 6OA too. Paul Coffey and Peter Forsberg both 6ths.....

My point is saying even if Svechnikov is as good as the best 3OA drafted in recent memory (Draisaitl), and that isn't a given, you can make the same argument for 6OA, 31OA, 33OA, 36OA being combined a higher value. Easily.

You guys are seriously underestimating how good the 6OA player is going to probably be too. 3 picks in the 31-36 range is also amazing! Very high chance at least one of them will be a decent player also. This is very deep draft by any people's accounts.

Anyways you guys can agree to disagree but I would bet my life savings Detroit wouldn't risk 4 very good picks for 1 great one. Especially when the difference between 3 and 6 isn't a mountain. Its a gap for sure but not the difference between winning a cup and not. Having 4 picks all hit is however. That could end up being you're starting lineup just about if your lucky.

Its a big jump from 3-6 for forwards. All the dman that are good 6 on are talented but small other then Bouchard. So for me you draft Bouchard at 6 or you draft a small dman which I don't want. And I have a feeling they will... So I would rather trade for the 3rd overall pick and get Svechnikov or Zadina.

I thought Detroit was looking to trade down this year to get some additional assets themselves. While this trade proposal looks interesting, it does bleed a rebuilding Wings club of three valuable draft picks.

https://www.tsn.ca/off-season-watch-the-suitors-for-kovalchuk-1.1099678

From the link posted above:

The Detroit Red Wings own the sixth-overall pick in next month's draft, but general manager Ken Holland said the team may consider trading the selection.

Holland told Craig Custance of The Athletic that while the team has little appetite to move up in the draft, he is open to moving down to acquire more assets.

“I’ve started to talk to some teams about a lot,” Holland told The Athletic. “As you work your way towards (host) Dallas at the draft, draft movement possibilities - I think at this stage in the game, everybody is kicking tires as to what might be out there...

"I’m open to possibly move.”

Custance reports that the Red Wings preference is to select a defenceman or a centre with their top pick and have no plans to move out of the Top 10.

“We’re also comfortable (doing nothing),” Holland said. “We’re going to get a good player at six.”

While the Red Wings are open to dropping back early, the could opt to move forward a short time later. The Red Wings own the Vegas Golden Knights' first-round pick (No. 30 or 31 overall) and the Ottawa Senators second-round pick (No. 33) in addition to their own (No. 36). Holland may package some combination of those picks, or use his extra second-round pick next season (from the Islanders) to move up.

“If somebody on your list starts to slide, then you start to work the phone,” Holland said. “We like a lot of players in that range, in that 30-35 range. We think there’s some pretty good players. Do you package two of those picks and try to move up? Possibly. If somebody high on our lists starts to slide and starts to fall.”

Small? Boqvist and Hughes are going to be 6'0 if not close to 6'0 by the time they play for an NHL team. Karlsson and Subban are 6'0, are they too small? Both those guys were sub 6'0 when drafted. Plus whats wrong with a smallish dman? As long as they are good. Gostisbehere would look nice next to Weber don't you think. Quinn Hughes could be better than Ghost...

You just named two guys I cant stand

And that is supposed to be an argument for or against? Im confused? Or are we to not get good players because you don't "like" them?

I want a stay at home number one defensemen, not a puck moving flashing overrated one.

Ummm.....ok.