A different NYI trade (Ladd's 3rd time back???)

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Created by: exo2769

Team: 2018-19 Chicago Blackhawks

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 15, 2018

Published: Jun. 15, 2018

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I'm a Blackhawks Fan so I don't want to pretend. I'm trying to put myself in the NYI shoes and ask myself. What does my team need as of 6.15.18. Well it's a lot. I don't have a #1C, #1D, or competent goalie. I.E. I don't have any of the major (3) pieces needed for the NHL. So how can go about solving for this. The answer is money!

Show Tavares some commitment by making splash. Sign John Calrson and then JT. Let's say you spend $21M for BOTH Carlson and Tavares. NYI still has $16M to sign ancillary players! That's CRAZY GOOD and solves (2) of NYI's biggest problems.

Why do the Hawks do this. Ladd is still a serviceable player. He's 32 and yes, way overpaid, but The Hawks also need to plan for the future considering their high priced Vets...so they get another QUALITY draft pick that will be a future ELC. Ladd can still help mentor these young guys to be true NHLers.

AND for anyone nit picking...yes I know my roster size is too big...I'm just trying to show the progression into the future too. Let's not forget about Ian Mitchell!!!

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Duclair, Anthony		2	$1,500,000
Hinostroza, Vinnie		2	$1,500,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Wahlstrom, Oliver	3	$925,000
Hayton, Barrett	3	$925,000
Hayden, John	2	$750,000

Trades

CHI

Ladd, Andrew ($225,000 retained)
2018 1st round pick (NYI)

Additional Details:

Why the $225k...this matches Hossa's Cap value 1 for 1. BUT Hossa is LTIR so NYI is essentially dropping cap space so they're free to sign guys like Tavares and Carlsson BOTH

NYI

Forsling, Gustav
Hossa, Marián
2018 3rd round pick (CHI)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
26	$80,000,000	$69,058,045	$1,232,500	$2,120,000	$10,941,955

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Duclair, Anthony $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Toews, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Kane, Patrick $2,625,000$2,625,000 RW NMC UFA - 5
DeBrincat, Alex $778,333$778,333 ($132,500$132K) LW, RW UFA - 2	Schmaltz, Nick $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, C UFA - 1	Sikura, Dylan $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LW, RW, C UFA - 1
Ladd, Andrew $5,275,000$5,275,000 LW NTC UFA - 5	Anisimov, Artem $4,550,000$4,550,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Saad, Brandon $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Ejdsell, Victor $833,750$833,750 C, LW RFA - 1	Kämpf, David $925,000$925,000 C UFA - 1	Hinostroza, Vinnie $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
	Hayton, Barrett $925,000$925,000	Hayden, John $750,000$750,000
		Wahlstrom, Oliver $925,000$925,000

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Keith, Duncan $5,538,462$5,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 5	Oesterle, Jordan $650,000$650,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Crawford, Corey $6,000,000$6,000,000 G M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Gustafsson, Erik $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD UFA - 2	Rutta, Jan $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Forsberg, Anton $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Murphy, Connor $3,850,000$3,850,000 RD UFA - 4	Seabrook, Brent $6,875,000$6,875,000 RD NMC UFA - 6	Lankinen, Kevin $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) G UFA - 2
Jokiharju, Henri $925,000$925,000 RD RFA - 3	Hillman, Blake $925,000$925,000 D UFA - 1

Jun. 15, 2018 at 10:00 a.m.

orignalsix

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The Hossa inclusions means nothing for both teams, but you are right, clearing Ladd would be desirable by the Isles, but do the Hawks really want him?

Jun. 15, 2018 at 10:02 a.m.

joshelkin

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What is Hossa's purpose? I understand his actual cash cap is lower, but what about AAV? What is your plan for him, LTIR?

Jun. 15, 2018 at 10:02 a.m.

exo2769

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exo2769

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Quoting: orignalsix

The Hossa inclusions means nothing for both teams, but you are right, clearing Ladd would be desirable by the Isles, but do the Hawks really want him?

This post is exactly for that reason. I would love to hear thoughts! Signing Schmaltz shouldn't be that hard...maybe Debrincat the next year might be though, but getting guys like Wahlstrom and Hayton...huge wins!

Jun. 15, 2018 at 10:04 a.m.

exo2769

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exo2769

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Quoting: joshelkin

What is Hossa's purpose? I understand his actual cash cap is lower, but what about AAV? What is your plan for him, LTIR?

Hossa's LTIR for sure. So whether it be CHI or NYI the only things that really need to be a factor is...He's not LTIR until after day 1. So both teams need to include his cap on Day 1 and then move him to LTIR. From the Hawks perspective it eliminates some juggling...something NYI can do. From a NYI perspective it's pretty harmless.

***EDIT*** CHI can't just send ANYONE down to the minors. They'd go to waivers first...so it's kinda a deal for CHI.

Jun. 15, 2018 at 10:07 a.m.

orignalsix

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Quoting: exo2769

I see you're interested in grabbing two forwards if given the chance. If the ratings are correct those picks about six to nine are close. Wonder if any trades are made if some team really wants to move up. Just a week away.

Jun. 15, 2018 at 10:11 a.m.

exo2769

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exo2769

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Edited Jun. 15, 2018 at 10:38 a.m.

Quoting: orignalsix

The reason I want (2) forwards isn't a reflection of the defensemen in the draft. To me, it's because I am a firm believer in Henri Jokiharju and Ian Mitchell. Chad Krys is developing nicely too, but ALL of the Hawks best forward prospects are in the NHL right now. Maybe Soderlund, but that's a reach.

@NickC1988 @ChiHawk thoughts?

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Jun. 15, 2018 at 2:41 p.m.

Hockeyplayer1

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It's and interesting idea for sure and the draft pick is huge, but the Hawks defense doesn't get any better. In fact, one could argue it gets worse with the removal of Forsling. This team is no better than the one they iced last year. Yes some of the young guys will be better but some of the old guys will be worse. Not to mention the Hawks are now stuck with 2 buyout-proof contracts for 5 more years.

I like the idea but I'm not sure this is a great implementation.

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Jun. 15, 2018 at 2:55 p.m.

exo2769

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exo2769

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Quoting: Hockeyplayer1

I'm just worried about Forsling. He has the talent for sure, but...3rd pair in Rockford and really didn't play that well in the Calder Playoffs either. There's something going on with his confidence (probably similar to Kempny) where he's not developing like he should because he's not getting ice time. Rutta was really helping him along until Rutta got hurt. Never say Never with the buy-out proof. Who knows what will happen between players and owners next Sept. AND Ladd's just 32 it's not like he's 35 with 5 years left. He's still serviable. Just expensive. If they could get an ELC then next year it would be $6M for both of them. Makes it easier to swallow. Also, keep in mind that experience and size would be a huge help in the playoffs. The Hawks really do have a lot of young guys. I know this post has the 2nd line all as ELCs, but that idea was more "lighting vs thunder" 2nd 3rd lines where reality would be that these ELCs will probably have to be split with vets. I do hear you though. It's what it's a tough call.

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