You're gonna have to give up more for Chychrun

big pass on the Avs trade. they wont be trading Zads and picks. Burakovsky and Grubauer are decent but Zads is a big important piece of their blue line so him and 2 picks for a tweener 2nd/3rd liner, an unproven starting goaltender and a cap dump.

Too much wishful thinking IMO for a team who is tight against the cap

Even with the prices Chayka has paid for older cup rings from Chicago? How much more?

From now on, I don't click if I see that Caps are the team here. Dear lord WHAT IS THIS???

Chychrun is a big piece to their defensive core. Between him, OEL, and Oliver-Joseph they have 3 top-pair potential defensemen on their blue line. That gives them an extremely solid blue line when you add in a couple of veterans. Not saying Djoos isn't a good defenseman, but Chychrun brings the physical play that OEL and Oliver-Joseph lack. He's much more defensive minded than the other two and really brings a good balance to that D-Core. Prying the 20-year old away from Arizona is going to require a top prospect/pick in addition to Djoos. Chayka isn't going to move a guy like Chychrun unless he's positive he can fill a hole in his prospect pool with the return.

Thanks for your input. I agree that Zadorov is a defensively solid guy who hits a lot. That's why I'm offering the guy who closed out the finals with a 2:22 shift after he posted the 15th most hits in any playoff. Orpik eliminated Columbus with a two point night for his sixth straight trip to at least the 2nd round. In the finals he scored the first finals GWG in Caps history (they got swept by Detroit in '98, and two guys from that team have coached Ovechkin, so he felt it), and then one-timed a keep in for a primary assist on a tying goal to stop Vegas' comeback in game five, and played two really long shifts once the Caps had the lead, to hold onto a one goal lead and win the Cup. So it's more about giving up a short term replacement for Zadorov with two Cup rings, than it is about dumping one year and $4.5M of salary.

That one's a trade I talked through with other Colorado fans a couple days ago, but to help disambiguate.... if you take all the goalies who played 30 or more games last year, and you get someone who was top eight in GAA and SPCT, is that guy unproven? http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?report=goaliesummary&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20172018&seasonTo=20172018&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,30&sort=goalsAgainstAverage I agree that he hasn't played 82 games in a season if that's what you're saying, but he played 35. MAF played 46.

If that deal really falls through, Philly's offering Hagg and a prospect for Burakovksy, a bunch of teams are offering two seconds and a prospect for Grubauer, and Buffalo's talking about a 4th and a prospect for Orpik (all just on this board. No idea what's happening IRL, but if you're going to negotiate in make believe land, I'm going to tell you what you're up against). I'd rather put them all together for a tough, two-way defenseman, but no worries. There's plenty of value in guys off a fresh championship squad. The only question is whether Colorado wants to add three of them. There is definitely wiggle room on how high the picks are, though. I left them all out last time and everybody said I was massively overpaying for Zadorov, so I'm sure the answer is somewhere in between.

30 starts as your biggest sample size in your NHL career in a back up role is Unproven ability to be a starter. Its a big jump for him to play 50-60 games against other teams starters to battle it out vs other back ups. You never know. So yes he is unproven bc he has never been a starter and has only had a 101 starts in 6 years with the Caps. A lot of risk in a guy like that still.

Orpik will be 38 next season, hes a cap dump and brings little to no value to the Avs blue line. Sorry my man but its just way too much wishful thinking here. A cup win doesnt make these guys abilities, age, cap hits, etc disappear, they still who they are and either dont add much value if at all, or have risk associated with them.

So you arent moving your 23 year old Dman who took huge strides this season out for that sort of package back.

Fair enough. Those are things that I like about Chychrun, for sure. I'm going to edit in Walker, Barber, and Siegenthaler, to that one.

So.... if you look at the guys on the team, and how they worked together this year,they led the playoffs in points, sure, with all those games, but also in hits and shot blocks. So i tried to increase all three. If your goal is to keep the same guys together who the rest of the East just watched on TV and has been thinking of ways to beat... you can do that, too. But I'm estimating I added about thirty goals, a hundred blocks, and four hundred hits per season while getting a bunch younger, and not overpaying for guys who played peripheral roles on a championship to be the same peripheral players, but now with cooler jewelery. It's an irreverent approach, I know. Too soon?

I maked you this:

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/736383

Jesus, Eli. You're the only person who trolls their own team and fanbase.

What do you mean by this. Is there a question?

There's more than one way to be a fan. In the long run, you end up cheering for the jersey and forgetting a lot of really amazing, talented people who wore it.

Wilson led the playoffs in hits, but was the caps' third right wing in even strength goals, while playing with Kuznetsov and Ovechkin, so I traded him for a guy who was on the leaderboard in hits and blocks, and for Kuznetsov's old linemate who won't sign with Vegas and scores 20 goals a year in the KHL. I think with Kempny thrown in it's a fair trade.

Then I made up the hits by signing former all star Nikolai Kulemin, and added the defenseman with the most hits last year, Zadorov. So I think I replaced Wilson. I could never replace his personality, but with all the posts suggesting he earned a raise to $4M a year because he played on the first line? Bye.