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Crawford gone....BUF trade

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Team: 2018-19 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 22, 2018
Published: Jun. 22, 2018
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    Jun. 22, 2018 at 2:44 p.m.
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    your worst one yet. We are giving up the 3 best assets in the trade, yet somehow adding salary,

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    Jun. 22, 2018 at 2:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    your worst one yet. We are giving up the 3 best assets in the trade, yet somehow adding salary,

    Brutal. No Stars


    Latest rumor #1.

    #2 What 3 assets are you referring to?

    #3 Crawford, a top 5 goalie in the league, is a better asset then anything else in that trade.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 2:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Latest rumor #1.

    #2 What 3 assets are you referring to?

    #3 Crawford, a top 5 goalie in the league, is a better asset then anything else in that trade.


    Ristolainen, O'Reilly and the 1st pick of the 2nd round are more valuable than anything you are sending our way. Saad has a 6 million AAV and regressed badly. Crawford has a 6 million AAV, is a goalie and had a debilitating injury. Anisimov is old, slow and has a bloated salary, murphy is not worth much at all.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 2:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    Ristolainen, O'Reilly and the 1st pick of the 2nd round are more valuable than anything you are sending our way. Saad has a 6 million AAV and regressed badly. Crawford has a 6 million AAV, is a goalie and had a debilitating injury. Anisimov is old, slow and has a bloated salary, murphy is not worth much at all.


    Goalie is the most important position on the ice. Nobody will argue that. Crawford has consistently performed as a top 10 goalie and top 5 more recently beyond a questionable defense. You really think ROR is more valuable then Crawford? Suggesting a #2 pick is more valuable then Crawford is laughable at best....probably your worst comment yet among a lot of bad one's you historically make.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 2:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Goalie is the most important position on the ice. Nobody will argue that. Crawford has consistently performed as a top 10 goalie and top 5 more recently beyond a questionable defense. You really think ROR is more valuable then Crawford? Suggesting a #2 pick is more valuable then Crawford is laughable at best....probably your worst comment yet among a lot of bad one's you historically make.


    It’s universally accepted that’s G is the most replaceable position in the sport. You’re unreal hahaha.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 2:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: BiscuitBakesandHotTaeks
    It’s universally accepted that’s G is the most replaceable position in the sport. You’re unreal hahaha.


    LMAO a top 5 goalie is universally known is the most valuable guy on the ice. A top 5 goalie can take an average team around him to the playoffs...fact. A 2nd line Center, ROR, can't with a bunch of average players around him. Or a 1st line D can't either.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 2:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    LMAO a top 5 goalie is universally known is the most valuable guy on the ice.


    There is so much fluctuation in goaltender performance year to year it’s by far the least valuable position. You’re on crack. Two years ago Crawford and Lehner had the same sv pct and now one isn’t getting a QO and the other supposedly one of the most valuable players in the league? Good job bud, maybe next time.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 3:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Goalie is the most important position on the ice. Nobody will argue that. Crawford has consistently performed as a top 10 goalie and top 5 more recently beyond a questionable defense. You really think ROR is more valuable then Crawford? Suggesting a #2 pick is more valuable then Crawford is laughable at best....probably your worst comment yet among a lot of bad one's you historically make.


    I don't think anyone trades the 1st pick of the 2nd round for a goalie. I certainly hope my team doesn't. Let alone the fact that no one knows if he is healthy.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 3:12 p.m.
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    No way buffalo does that trade.
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    Jun. 22, 2018 at 3:16 p.m.
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    No way man
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 3:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: BiscuitBakesandHotTaeks
    There is so much fluctuation in goaltender performance year to year it’s by far the least valuable position. You’re on crack. Two years ago Crawford and Lehner had the same sv pct and now one isn’t getting a QO and the other supposedly one of the most valuable players in the league? Good job bud, maybe next time.


    Go look at Crawford's stats first of all. Then look at Lundquist and wonder why he was getting $11M a year prior to anyone else making that money in the league historically. You keep believing goalies are the least valuable position just don't say that to any pro coach or player because they'll laugh their face off at you.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 3:20 p.m.
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    Buffalo has enough injury problems. Crawford gets you Bogosian.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 3:27 p.m.
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Go look at Crawford's stats first of all. Then look at Lundquist and wonder why he was getting $11M a year prior to anyone else making that money in the league historically. You keep believing goalies are the least valuable position just don't say that to any pro coach or player because they'll laugh their face off at you.


    Ovechkin was making 9M AAV 6 years before Lundqvist got his deal lmao.

    Oh and #1 centers make more than Goalies. I can’t believe I’m having this argument. Oh well I’m done, have a good day!
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 3:42 p.m.
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    Ovechkin was making 9M AAV 6 years before Lundqvist got his deal lmao.

    Oh and #1 centers make more than Goalies. I can’t believe I’m having this argument. Oh well I’m done, have a good day!


    And Lundquist was the highest plaid player at the time he got his deal...not just goalies, all players.

    Yeah, I agree, can't believe I'm having this conversation with anyone who knows the game and it's obvious you've never played the game at a higher level to understand that goalies ARE NOT the least important player on the ice.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 4:06 p.m.
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    And Lundquist was the highest plaid player at the time he got his deal...not just goalies, all players.

    Yeah, I agree, can't believe I'm having this conversation with anyone who knows the game and it's obvious you've never played the game at a higher level to understand that goalies ARE NOT the least important player on the ice.


    Keep telling yourself that bud.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 4:28 p.m.
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    Keep telling yourself that bud.


    Don't need to tell myself anything, from experience I know that a top 5 goalie is worth more then almost anyone on the ice and any professional would agree.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 4:41 p.m.
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    It’s universally accepted that’s G is the most replaceable position in the sport. You’re unreal hahaha.


    Talk about someone that is COMPLETELY lost. These trades make little to no sense but holy cow I never thought I'd hear someone say something like this.
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 5:04 p.m.
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    Saad is 25 yrs old in his prime....And 20 times the player Ryan Oreiley is get real
    Jun. 22, 2018 at 5:24 p.m.
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    Goalie is the most important position on the ice. Nobody will argue that. Crawford has consistently performed as a top 10 goalie and top 5 more recently beyond a questionable defense. You really think ROR is more valuable then Crawford? Suggesting a #2 pick is more valuable then Crawford is laughable at best....probably your worst comment yet among a lot of bad one's you historically make.


    To be fair, Crawford might not be enough for the first pick in the second round right now because of his health. No one knows anything about his health, which is scary. With that said, he is a top five goal in the world, and I don't think the Hawks should trade him if he's healthy. I'd be interested in trying to buy low on him if I'm another team, but I wouldn't be willing to pay full price, hence why I think the Hawks are best keeping him and hoping for the best
     
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