Not even close to fair value on the Buffalo trade.

Thanks for the response, what would be more fair then? Belpedio is a solid offensive RHD prospect and Nino did have a pretty rough season after bruising a bone in his leg. Nino was on pace for 23 goals had he played 82 games and again that was while injured. O'Reilly is a good player but a lot of Buffalo fans seem to forget he's on a massive contract which brings his trade value down. I can see how more would be required by the Wild but I'm not sure how much more.

Belpedio is not as solid as you think. ROR's contract is correct for what he brings to the table. Nino doesn't even get trade negotiations started.

Meh, I think he's a little overpaid. He's good don't get me wrong but on a cup contending team he's a 2C. How about we take out Nino and Belpedio and add Granlund. I think the Sabres would have to add a little but Granlund would be a really good addition for the Sabres.

O'reilly will cost 8,500,000$ this year to float between the 2nd & 3rd line. For a team on a budget like BUF, this can't be good. Also, he doesn't like it there...

Just stop it with the lame scapegoat narratives. Sabres aren't a budget team and ROR's comments were just about himself not the team. Built up aggravation about how he played. Thought this was all cleared up but apparently not.

Okay I think I have something worked out. How about

Granlund + Niederreiter for O'Reilly + Sam Reinhart + maybe a prospect such as Nylander, Pu, Olofsson

Absolutely not.

Then what would work for you to get O'Reilly to the Wild...? Granlund is AT BEST an equal player to O'Reilly (O'Reilly is a C which is more valuable than a winger but Granlund is an elite passer that can finish when he needs to), Nino is better than Reinhart, so to make up for that I added a prospect.

Let's agree to disagree on that.

In what way is Nino better than Reinhart?

Our owner is a billionaire and we have a lot of cap space with the King of cap maneuvering.

ROR contract is fine today, and maybe even next year. After that it becomes a burden on any team that has it. His possession numbers a nice, his face off numbers are nice. His speed and his shitty contract are not. This is exactly why Buffalo is trying to sell high right now. They know that contract will hurt their potential growth in 2-3 years. Why else would they be trying to trade one of their best players?

They are not trying to trade him let's make that clear. They are listening to offers for him if these offers can fix other holes in the sabres lineup. We have a replacement future 2C already so we can afford to trade him. His contract ends when he is 32 so no it won't hurt the sabres at all if they keep him. The salary cap will only go up and we have cap clearing in the next few years.

And have been in the bottom 5 spending teams 3 times in the last 4 years (in 2014, 2015 & 2017) ....

Because what did the sabres have to spend money on?

In what way isn't he? As I mentioned, Nino had a bruised bone in his leg for almost the entire season and by using the pace he scored goals if you average that to 82 games, it comes out to a little over 23 goals scored, which is almost the same amount that Sam Reinhart scored while healthy. If you use Nino's healthy season 2 seasons ago (which is a much more accurate representation of who he is as a player), he scored 7 more points than Reinharts best season (this season) while averaging 2 minutes per game LESS than Reinhart. Reinhart's best CF% is 52.3 and FF% of 52% while Nino's CF% 2 seasons ago was 55.4% and FF% was 54.8%. Nino has also had a shooting percentage of above 13% for 3 out of 4 seasons (one season was 12.6% which is still very high and another was an astounding 16.1%), while Reinhart has had around 13% for 2 out of 3 seasons (this stat is pretty comparable for both players). Nino has been over 100 hits and even been close to 200 hits for every full season he's played in the NHL while Reinhart has 98 TOTAL career hits across 3 full seasons. Nino also has had more takeaways than giveaways in every NHL season he's been in while Reinahrt hasn't done this ever, but last season went even for that category. So, please tell me how Reinahrt is a better player because almost every stat points in Nino's way.

Here's my source for the stats
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/n/niedeni01.html
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/r/reinhsa01.html

There is no guarantee that Mittelstadt can be a 2C. Making him a 2C this coming season would be a huge mistake, the kid cannot handle those minutes and matchups yet. Trading O'Reilly will leave a bigger hole than what he could potentially bring back and prove to be a huge mistake for Buffalo. Who cares if he is 32 when the deal is done, he is 27 today and has the speed of a 40 year old. The game is only getting faster, he will not be an effective 2C for the length of his contract and there isn't a team in the league that can afford a $7.5M cap hit for a 3rd or 4th line center.

I like Nino, he just doesnt fit the areas the Sabres are looking to improve. We have no NHL worthy top 6 LW's on the roster so they'd be looking for a LW + a good young defenseman. If another team can't provide them that, they're better off keeping ROR as he's one of the best two way centers in the game. Belpedio is meh. He doesnt have elite skill and he'll likely be just a third pairing guy if he sticks at all (only played 1 NHL game I believe). Those defensemen can be found anywhere. If ROR can get you a young goal scoring LW and young defensemen, you look hard at it. If not, keep him and find a LW elsewhere.