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Ottawa Trade (no Karlsson)

Created by: JKTakes
Team: 2018-19 Dallas Stars
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 18, 2018
Published: Jul. 18, 2018
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We need 2C more than we need Erik Karlsson. Do you think this kind of trade is okay for Ottawa?
They need 1st round pick in 2019.
I am willing to include Hintz/Dickinson/Gurianov.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,500,000
1$800,000
Trades
DAL
  1. Duchene, Matt
  2. 2019 5th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Hanzal, Martin
  2. Shore, Devin
  3. 2019 1st round pick (DAL)
  4. 2019 4th round pick (DAL)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$76,884,166$0$3,000,000$2,615,834

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$9,500,000$9,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
$5,750,000$5,750,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
$2,950,000$2,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$7,500,000$7,500,000
C, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$2,200,000$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
$2,400,000$2,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$875,000$875,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
$735,000$735,000
LW
UFA - 1
$800,000$800,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$2,200,000$2,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
$4,916,667$4,916,667
G
NMC
UFA - 5
$4,900,000$4,900,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$2,350,000$2,350,000
RD
UFA - 3
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA - 2
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
UFA - 3
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
UFA - 1
$1,300,000$1,300,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 18, 2018 at 7:37 a.m.
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Have to add at least Honka for Ottawa to make the trade considering they are adding Hanzal (cap dump)
Jul. 18, 2018 at 7:41 a.m.
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I like Shore well enough, but that's not enough if we take on Hanzal. I would think Honka is the guy
Jul. 18, 2018 at 7:45 a.m.
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TexasHockey
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I was thinking about adding Honka for a swap with Christian Jaros.

Something like:
DAL offers Honka, Hanzal, Shore + 2019 1st + 2019 4th
OTT offers Duchene, Jaros + 2019 5th
Jul. 18, 2018 at 7:45 a.m.
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KFTW
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Ottawa got him less than a year ago. No way they do this deal for less than half the return they give up when they got him. To save face, theyd need Honka/Lindell + Faksa/Janmark + 1st
Jul. 18, 2018 at 8:02 a.m.
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Bet On It
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Quoting: StarsSlovakia
I was thinking about adding Honka for a swap with Christian Jaros.

Something like:
DAL offers Honka, Hanzal, Shore + 2019 1st + 2019 4th
OTT offers Duchene, Jaros + 2019 5th


That makes even less sense than the first trade proposed though. Hanzal is a bad player with questionable health, and a serious cap dump. That lowers what the package can get back. Shore is decent, but not at all anything special or worth building a package around. The 1st, great, money, sure. But that on its own doesn't get Duchene. Adding a defenseman in Jaros with top 4 potential who is very likely going to crack the NHL this year doesn't make any sense. It would be Honka + Hanzal + Shore + 1st for Duchene, and even then most Sens fans would laugh at that.
Jul. 18, 2018 at 8:02 a.m.
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Quoting: StarsSlovakia
I was thinking about adding Honka for a swap with Christian Jaros.

Something like:
DAL offers Honka, Hanzal, Shore + 2019 1st + 2019 4th
OTT offers Duchene, Jaros + 2019 5th


can't see Ottawa doing that. Jaros is so close to being NHL ready, and the team needs him in the future. the sens organizational depth at RD is abysmal, and Trading off the only one who could step in anytime soon would be a bad move.

I think you take Shore and Jaros out of that deal and it works better
Jul. 18, 2018 at 8:36 a.m.
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Sam
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Dude, the only reason Hanzsl wasn't bought out this summer was because go was hurt. He's the definition of a cap dump. Even without throwing in Hanzal, this package doesn't get Duchene.
Jul. 18, 2018 at 12:17 p.m.
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Cody
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Take out the 4th and add Hintz. Then imo I’d say it’s a fair deal
 
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