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EK - It's a stupid idea, but I'm doing the math.

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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 4, 2018
Published: Aug. 4, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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8$11,000,000
8$7,000,000
8$6,500,000
8$1,000,000
3$1,500,000
3$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$11,000,000
3$1,000,000
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  1. 2021 7th round pick (DET)
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,000,000$80,501,666$0$400,000$1,498,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C
UFA - 5
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 6
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW
UFA - 5
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 3
$11,000,000$11,000,000
RD
UFA - 8
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 4, 2018 at 4:04 p.m.
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I think Marner's agent will want at least 8 mill per on a long term deal.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 4:18 p.m.
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you should have stopped when the you saw your were 4m over the cap and short two plays on the roster. no chance karlsson is a leaf.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 4:19 p.m.
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I’m confused. Why would the Wings give up any pick just to take on someone’s contract who won’t play again? Doesn’t make sense
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Aug. 4, 2018 at 4:25 p.m.
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As a mathematician and graduate of Grade 1 math, I can say with some authority that this math is shoddy.

Karlsson is great, but no way should there be three 11m dollar players on one team. That will never work in the long run.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 4:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Weezley
As a mathematician and graduate of Grade 1 math, I can say with some authority that this math is shoddy.

Karlsson is great, but no way should there be three 11m dollar players on one team. That will never work in the long run.


You graduated from grade one math?smile So many folks say that Leafs have an unmanageable cap with two 11m players (projected), your correct having three would never work.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 4:38 p.m.
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Quoting: alwaysnextyear
I think Marner's agent will want at least 8 mill per on a long term deal.


I read he wants what Matthews gets
Aug. 4, 2018 at 4:41 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
You graduated from grade one math?smile So many folks say that Leafs have an unmanageable cap with two 11m players (projected), your correct having three would never work.


Sure did. We had a pizza party and everything. Not a word of a lie.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 4:42 p.m.
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Quoting: linehan10
I read he wants what Matthews gets


He is high to think he is getting anywhere near what Matthews makes. Obviously another unconfirmed rumour though.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 4:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Weezley
He is high to think he is getting anywhere near what Matthews makes. Obviously another unconfirmed rumour though.


If Matthews gets 11-12, I definitely think Marner is worth 9-10.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 4:46 p.m.
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Sure did. We had a pizza party and everything. Not a word of a lie.


You must have lived in rich neighbourhood. Party food for passing one course in grade one. You must have got a new Mustang at your grade eight graduation.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 4:55 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
You must have lived in rich neighbourhood. Party food for passing one course in grade one. You must have got a new Mustang at your grade eight graduation.


LOL. I wish. It was a public school. Mrs. Kitson was just extra af when it came to mediocre achievements. I had her again in Grade 4 and she had another pizza party just for memorizing the multiplication table.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 5:37 p.m.
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You a year short if Karsslon was 20/21 with Marleau of the book Karlsson fits easy
Aug. 4, 2018 at 6:03 p.m.
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LOL. I wish. It was a public school. Mrs. Kitson was just extra af when it came to mediocre achievements. I had her again in Grade 4 and she had another pizza party just for memorizing the multiplication table.


I get, it was the Mrs KItson that wanted the pizza, not so much as a reward to you. That pizza must have got me thinking Italian. I had lasagna for dinner tonight.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 6:13 p.m.
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Quoting: linehan10
I read he wants what Matthews gets


Of course he does. Does he think he get it.? No. I'm amazed that fans believe what sportscaster/writer just make up in their head. Also amazed that fans believe what players/coach/executives actual say.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 6:38 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Of course he does. Does he think he get it.? No. I'm amazed that fans believe what sportscaster/writer just make up in their head. Also amazed that fans believe what players/coach/executives actual say.


unpopular opinion but i think marner is better than matthews
Aug. 4, 2018 at 7:13 p.m.
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I love how Matthews is always paid the same as a Norris trophy winning free agent defenseman and the best free agent centre in the last 5 years.

A season and a half and the kid is God to you people.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 7:15 p.m.
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Quoting: linehan10
unpopular opinion but i think marner is better than matthews

They're pretty close

Quoting: palhal
Of course he does. Does he think he get it.? No. I'm amazed that fans believe what sportscaster/writer just make up in their head. Also amazed that fans believe what players/coach/executives actual say.


I'm amazed people still think Matthews gets anywhere near 11M.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 7:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Goulet
They're pretty close



I'm amazed people still think Matthews gets anywhere near 11M.


After seeing Ceci getting 4.3m, who knows what $$$$ players get.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 9:06 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
After seeing Ceci getting 4.3m, who knows what $$$$ players get.


The other Karlsson only got a million more..
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Aug. 5, 2018 at 2:53 a.m.
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Quoting: TheManNotTheDrink
I’m confused. Why would the Wings give up any pick just to take on someone’s contract who won’t play again? Doesn’t make sense


It was a random, easy and lazy way to remove him from the math trade. Not a real trade...
Aug. 5, 2018 at 2:54 a.m.
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Quoting: clark
you should have stopped when the you saw your were 4m over the cap and short two plays on the roster. no chance karlsson is a leaf.


Which was in fact the purpose of the exercise, hence the title, that Ek is a stupid idea, and here is the math to prove why.
Aug. 5, 2018 at 2:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Goulet
They're pretty close



I'm amazed people still think Matthews gets anywhere near 11M.


Eichel got $10 M.... it's going to be at least that...
Aug. 5, 2018 at 2:57 a.m.
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Quoting: linehan10
If Matthews gets 11-12, I definitely think Marner is worth 9-10.


The Leafs would be well served to get Marner inked, before he plays a full year with Tavares.
Aug. 5, 2018 at 11:12 a.m.
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Quoting: Fogelhund
The Leafs would be well served to get Marner inked, before he plays a full year with Tavares.


I don't know how much better tavares will make marner. I think if anything, marner makes tavares better
Aug. 5, 2018 at 11:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Fogelhund
Eichel got $10 M.... it's going to be at least that...


Eichel doesn't play on a contender. Contenders don't pay their players like fans do.
 
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