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What Sens fans think......vs......the reality

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Team: 2018-19 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 31, 2018
Published: Aug. 31, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,500,000
Trades
1.
EDM
    Karlsson
    OTT
    1. Klefbom, Oscar
    2. Yamamoto, Kailer
    3. 2019 1st round pick (EDM)
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    Reality, even overpaying maybe
    2.
    OTT
    1. Bouchard, Evan
    2. Draisaitl, Leon
    3. Nurse, Darnell
    4. 2019 2nd round pick (EDM)
    5. 2019 3rd round pick (NYI)
    6. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
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    What they think they could get
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    2019
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    2020
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    2021
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$79,500,000$73,479,165$0$2,500,000$6,020,835
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    $12,500,000$12,500,000
    C
    UFA - 8
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    $1,950,000$1,950,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    $675,000$675,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 3
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
    RW
    UFA - 1
    $650,000$650,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    $3,100,000$3,100,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 2
    $800,000$800,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    $1,150,000$1,150,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    $4,875,000$4,875,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LD/RD
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    $4,166,666$4,166,666
    RD
    UFA - 3
    $4,166,666$4,166,666
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    $1,900,000$1,900,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LD/RD
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    $700,000$700,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1

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    Aug. 31, 2018 at 9:54 a.m.
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    That is not what they think they can get. I'm not a Sens fan, but stop. The amount of Sens fans overvaluing is more than doubled by the other fan bases being jerks and telling them they have to settle for scraps because he's UFA.
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    Aug. 31, 2018 at 9:57 a.m.
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    First trade is pretty fair, The 2nd one is awful for the Oilers Gaborik has zero value Draisaitl+1st for an extended Karlsson should do it. Not sure why you've Sekera in the lineup he's done for the year.
    Aug. 31, 2018 at 9:59 a.m.
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    Quoting: jwink19
    That is not what they think they can get. I'm not a Sens fan, but stop. The amount of Sens fans overvaluing is more than doubled by the other fan bases being jerks and telling them they have to settle for scraps because he's UFA.


    Youre right its so annoying. I think Klefbom + Yamamoto and a 1st is a fair deal. All I want is a top 4 replacement for Karlsson, a great prospect who can play in the top 6 and a 1st.
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    Aug. 31, 2018 at 10:14 a.m.
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    Quoting: jwink19
    That is not what they think they can get. I'm not a Sens fan, but stop. The amount of Sens fans overvaluing is more than doubled by the other fan bases being jerks and telling them they have to settle for scraps because he's UFA.


    The best thing I've read on here in a while.
    Aug. 31, 2018 at 10:27 a.m.
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    Klefbom + Yamamoto + 1st is what Ottawa fans think they can get. It's a huge overpay though.
    Aug. 31, 2018 at 11:18 a.m.
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    Quoting: CD282
    Klefbom + Yamamoto + 1st is what Ottawa fans think they can get. It's a huge overpay though.


    When you compare it to the likely Vegas deal, it's not though. Let's say Vegas offered Theodore, Suzuki, another roster player and a 1st for Karlsson and Ryan. And a lot of Vegas fans are fine with trading that package for King EK.

    Theodore>Klefbom
    Suzuki>Yamamoto
    And who knows about the first round pick but I think both of Edmonton and VGK are playoff teams.

    So the Klef Yamamoto and a 1st isn't an overpay.

    But yeah the Drai one is bananas. If Drai was part of the package and Karlsson went to to Edmonton with an extension, I'd add a small plus to draisaitl and call it a fair deal.
    Aug. 31, 2018 at 11:23 a.m.
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    Quoting: MelnykOut
    When you compare it to the likely Vegas deal, it's not though. Let's say Vegas offered Theodore, Suzuki, another roster player and a 1st for Karlsson and Ryan. And a lot of Vegas fans are fine with trading that package for King EK.

    Theodore>Klefbom
    Suzuki>Yamamoto
    And who knows about the first round pick but I think both of Edmonton and VGK are playoff teams.

    So the Klef Yamamoto and a 1st isn't an overpay.

    But yeah the Drai one is bananas. If Drai was part of the package and Karlsson went to to Edmonton with an extension, I'd add a small plus to draisaitl and call it a fair deal.


    Couple of differences here: (1) Vegas may think Karlsson puts them over the top this year - and he may. Edmonton is not pushing for a Cup this year, trading young players and futures for 1-year of Karlsson doesn't make sense, and (2) Vegas has the cap space to re-sign Karlsson, Edmonton does not. So their assets out not only gives them a premier defenseman rental, but also first chance to re-sign that defender long-term without the competition of the free market.
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    Aug. 31, 2018 at 12:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: Larkinisking
    First trade is pretty fair, The 2nd one is awful for the Oilers Gaborik has zero value Draisaitl+1st for an extended Karlsson should do it. Not sure why you've Sekera in the lineup he's done for the year.


    It's awful on purpose. I do agree with you on this though.
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