As a Rangers fan, I'd consider it a great deal if it was for Bennett straight up. I think you're offering up a bit much

sam bennet is not a good player, he produces less than jimmy vesey. For someone that starts a career 56% in the offensive zone, you should be getting more than 26 points a year.

If it was a 1st and Mangiapane i would be extremely happy as a rangers fan

I figured 1st and Mangiapane would be the deal, but I added Valiev because NYR defense has been horrible. Figured NYR would be mulling over an offer that addresses at least a glaring need.

You know there's more to hockey than just purely scoring, right?

He's a young guy that's been noticeable all over the ice and is still a RFA when his deal is up. Zucc Isn't having as much of an impact this season and it's going to hurt his value. Bennett would be a great return for him.

The rumor stated that it was a "great offer." I figured a first round pick would be involved if it were so great, mainly because I do not think the Flames are giving up on Bennett. Therefore, I added a piece or two that a) NYR would be interested in and b) the Flames would be comfortable giving up with the first rounder. Nothing wrong with your proposal; just think that if the Flames are serious about contending, they are not going to give up any of their top nine forwards. Not sure how Zucc for Bennett 1:1 would make sense for the Flames.

Honestly a solid offer no complaints zucc will be in the area of fetching a 1st as much as fans keep saying a 2nd will do a top 6 doesnt come cheap look at patches but he is a rental so i dont see much more than what you added.

Come on dude, Since when has Eklund ever been considered a legit source?

Yes there is more to hockey than scoring, but scoring also is one of the rangers biggest weaknesses. Bennett would not be considered a good return at all. He used to have a lot of promise as a prospect and after his first season, but he's fluttered out.

Oh I know but it's still fun to wonder if there is an offer and what it would be.

Have you seen him play at all this year?? He's looked great.

I mean it's possible something can be done between the Rangers and Flames, But i doubt Eklund is the one true insider.

Just cause I am curious I'll ask all of you, does McQuaid have any value? The Flames need a little bit of toughness and a guy that canstep into heavier games against other teams in the Pacific that isn't Dalton Prout, I think he would be a good throw in to send to Calgary, just wondering if it changes the value of the trade and if so by how much?

Yes, and he does not fit the rangers need at all. The rangers need players that can drive play and produce, not supporting players- we already have plenty of those available. We don't need more third line players than we already have.

McQuaid is probably worth about a late 3rd. Although if you plan to play him anywhere above the 3rd pairing, you'll be disappointed.

Yes, adding McQuaid would change the details of the trade, but I do not think it would make sense for either team. NYR would probably want another pick and prospect (not a great prospect but one they could take a chance on), and I doubt the flames want to give up another pick. Flames also have Rasmus Anderssen to play 3rd pairing RHD, and can leave Brodie and Hamonic on the right side as well; they do not need to play Prout at all.

It would also be unwise for NYR to throw in McQuaid, because they would most likely be able to add more return by dealing UFAs separately, rather than together. Assuming there are other suitors for McQuaid, NYR would not be forced to package McQuaid with Zuccarello.

A third rounder is what I would guess as well.

Perfect, thank you fellas, I think my thought is that Stone looks like he may be an LTIR piece with a blood clot, no one really knows what Valimaki is going to look like when he returns after a long injury and Kylington is really good, there are a few parts of his game that make me think that he needs just a little more top pairing AHL minutes, I think bringing in McQuaid protects Valimaki from having to rush back, allows Kylington to get back to playing 20-22 minutes a night in the AHL and keeps us away from having to play Prout if there is an injury in the near future. I do see your points though and it doesn't really make sense when you explain it that way or at that price.

Then I would suggest bringing in a LHD vet to protect Kylington or Valimaki instead. Maybe a veteran such as Kronwall, Bouwmeester or Del Zotto for a conditional pick? A low cost option for the third pairing. I know they are not the most physical players, but none of them are small and would probably help bring some experience to the locker room.

I was so surprised to see Eklund cited as the source and then for the trade to be realistic

Guess it's pretty easy to gauge the value of a 1-yr rental of a typical top 6 winger. Those trades happen all the time. Good move for both teams IMO.

I know Eklund is not reliable but I am so curious what the offer from the Flames could be if it were true. The thing about Eklund is not that his sources are wrong; he just receives information so late. That offer could have come and passed by now.

I just cannot see the Flames giving up their 1st round pick this year. Didn't have a first or second round pick last year and if they use this year's first for a rental they won't pick until late in the 3rd round again this year. Shouldn't happen for Zucc unless a significant cap dump is involved.

If there is any truth to this rumor (which considering the source I doubt) it would most likely be for players / prospects and later round picks

I'd be all over that if I were NYR. Very decent return for a guy they aren't resigning, isn't playing well AND in a market where there are plenty of other options. Simmonds, Panarin, Skinner, Pavelski, Lee, Dzingel etc etc

I cannot either; I am just guessing what a "great offer" would look like. This seems like a great offer for Zuccarello.