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Created by: PuckPal

Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 20, 2019

Published: Jan. 24, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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If oilers are going to do a restructure getting 1sts and young prospects are needed. This trade is right now but at the draft the trade is completed. But before people say why would the oilers be interested in brown remember McDavid and Brown have a past history of being linemates and brown understands how McDavid thinks the game. So he could be what Chris Kunitz was to Crosby a solid allround player who complements McDavid. Also, i get this might be an overpay but the thought is if the leafs overpay for Larsson it might actually slowdown the d market this TDL just like where Toronto got a 2nd round pick for Polak and garbage. So if the leafs do this at the draft they can then of needed trade Johnsson or Kapanen which finishes the trade just like when SJ gave up practically nothing for Reimer. It a thought but it solves 2 things 1 the leafs get the net clearing Shutdown dman they need with term on a solid contract and the oilers look like they know what they are doing finally.

Trades

TOR

EDM

Brown, Connor
Holl, Justin
Liljegren, Timothy
2019 1st round pick (TOR)
2020 1st round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

THE 2020 1ST IS CONDITIONAL ON THE THE LEAFS WINNING THE CUP BY THE 2020 DRAFT IF NOT ITS A 2ND

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Buried

Michael Hutchinson: $275,000 ($1,300,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020
2021

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$79,500,000	$78,952,777	$2,550,000	$5,400,000	$547,223

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Marleau, Patrick $6,250,000$6,250,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 2	Matthews, Auston $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) C UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW UFA - 1
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 7	Kapanen, Kasperi $863,333$863,333 RW UFA - 1
Johnsson, Andreas $787,500$787,500 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem $4,500,000$4,500,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Nylander, William $10,277,778$10,277,778 RW UFA - 6
Lindholm, Pär $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, C UFA - 1	Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 2
		Chiasson, Alex $650,000$650,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 4	Larsson, Adam $4,166,666$4,166,666 RD UFA - 3	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Gardiner, Jake $4,050,000$4,050,000 LD UFA - 1	Hainsey, Ron $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Sparks, Garret $675,000$675,000 G UFA - 1
Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 2	Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 6

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Ozhiganov, Igor $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1	Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Ennis, Tyler $650,000$650,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Marincin, Martin $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1

Jan. 24, 2019 at 11:26 a.m.

Lenny7

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Definitely don't have to give up what amounts to 3 first rounders for Larsson. Give up a decent prospect like Liljegren, Brown and a 1st, and he's probably yours (On here).

Jan. 24, 2019 at 11:48 a.m.

PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

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This is ridiculous.

Jan. 24, 2019 at 12:06 p.m.

OilersFan77

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You're massively overvaluing Larsson, for what you're paying you'd need to be getting a superstar in return.

Jan. 24, 2019 at 12:24 p.m.

TiBo23

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When did Larsson become Erik Karlsson? I wouldn't give up that package for Karlsson either... Bad trade for the Buds!

Jan. 24, 2019 at 1:51 p.m.

PuckPal

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Quoting: Lenny7

Definitely don't have to give up what amounts to 3 first rounders for Larsson. Give up a decent prospect like Liljegren, Brown and a 1st, and he's probably yours (On here).

The point was to also overpay on this part of the trade and then if they trade johnnson or kap they slightly over pay to offset but what this causes is other teams needing to overpay for dman this TDL and at the draft causes less trades which helps the oilers and Leafs get what they need and stops other teams from improving greatly.

Jan. 24, 2019 at 1:54 p.m.

PuckPal

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Quoting: TiBo23

When did Larsson become Erik Karlsson? I wouldn't give up that package for Karlsson either... Bad trade for the Buds!

Larsson and if they can dump someother contracts will free up cap to go after Karlsson in UFA. Also read to post the point is to overpay on this part of the trade to cause a slow down on TDL. So read the post.

Jan. 24, 2019 at 1:58 p.m.

Lenny7

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Quoting: PuckPal

That sounds very much like you want to get yourself in a game of chicken with the rest of the league. Probably not the best idea.

Juice liked this.

Jan. 24, 2019 at 2:01 p.m.

PuckPal

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Quoting: OilersFan77

You're massively overvaluing Larsson, for what you're paying you'd need to be getting a superstar in return.

I know the point is Overpay on this part and then the oilers overpay for maybe Johnsson or Kap at the draft and at the end of the day oilers have isurance the leafs trade one of them this offseason and then it really becomes Brown, Kapanen, liljgren, and Holl for Larsson, Chaisson. Thats what I'm thinking once part 2 is done at the draft if the leafs figure they can't afford Kap next year.so at point the trade is somewhat fair and the leafs can go for the cup this offseason.

Jan. 24, 2019 at 2:03 p.m.

PuckPal

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Quoting: Lenny7

That sounds very much like you want to get yourself in a game of chicken with the rest of the league. Probably not the best idea.

Teams have done it in the past and what it does is make other team strip their depth for players and once the leafs finish this trade at the draft it then becomes a value trade and the rest of the league are messed depth wise.

Jan. 24, 2019 at 2:14 p.m.

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Juice

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Quoting: PuckPal

So when is the other half of the Hall-Larsson trade going down?

That’s the only trade I can think of that made the rest of the league take a step back and reassess the value of trading for a d-man.

What other deal stunted the market and was followed up in the offseason by those same two teams making another lopsided deal the other way?

Jan. 24, 2019 at 2:31 p.m.

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Lenny7

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Quoting: PuckPal

This is a bigger haul than the Sens got for Karlsson (Who's a pending UFA, but one of the top 3 dmen in the league).

If you think you can reset the market, giver, but blowing your prospect/draft pick wad on a second pairing guy with the thought that every other GM around the league is then going to up their asking price and refuse to sell any cheaper, is a dangerous game.

Quoting: Juice

What other deal stunted the market and was followed up in the offseason by those same two teams making another lopsided deal the other way?

I'm also curious as to an example of this happening?

I've said, and will continue to say that the best way to build a d-core is internally. Nashville, Anaheim, Chicago (while they were in their prime), LA, SJ, etc. have all built their cores by drafting well (Nashville added PK, and SJ added Karlsson, but even without him they are insanely talented). Let Liljegren and Sandin come up next year and show their stuff. Keeps it affordable, and allows those picks/prospects/depth players to be used for something better than Adam Larsson.

Jan. 24, 2019 at 2:41 p.m.

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PuckPal

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Edited Jan. 24, 2019 at 2:51 p.m.

Quoting: Juice

The leafs trading Polak for a 2nd then a few weeks later trading Reimer for nothing. This caused every value to go up on dman and only borderine 2nd pair 3rd pair dman were traded that TDL the dman were suppost to be traded at that TDL and were done in the offseason. So the point is cause a reassesment which causes better dman to not be traded by the TDL and seeing the overpay is to insure TOR finish the trade at the draft this helps each team. The value could be dropped to a conditional 1st in 2019 if they don't want to do this and then we still get value for Larsson who is a solid big body, Shot blocking, shut down dman the leafs need.

Jan. 24, 2019 at 6:23 p.m.

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TiBo23

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Quoting: TiBo23

When did Larsson become Erik Karlsson? I wouldn't give up that package for Karlsson either... Bad trade for the Buds!

Yeah, now it is twice that I have read your dribble. Hard pass by the Leafs....

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