Swap the 4th and Borgman for Kappy and you Have Yourself a deal. With Rangers wanting to sign the breadman, we need all the Cap we can get

Rangers have enough bad contracts not a chance we take on Hortons just for a 2nd

little overpaying for McQuaid

As a Rangers fan, I'm down since Horton doesn't go against the cap.

Horton is on LTIR that $5.3M doesn't go against the cap.

gaining a 3rd to take on Zaitsev contract....you would have to pay up more than that IMO for the avs to take that on

the Avs dont want Zaitsevs contract. The value of Bourque, Ennis, and the 3rd round pick are insignificant in comparison to taking on $4.5M against the cap until 2024. Thats a non-starter for me

It's not that simple.

https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq

Ya I certainly can't blame you for feeling that way. Was trying to find a team that had both cap space and the need for a bottom 6 RHD and the Avs seemed like a possibility. If Zaitsev made $1m less on his AAV I'd keep him but we need that $1m. Babcock trots him out for 20+ min a night so he's not a bad player...simply not worth $4.5m for another 5 years

Is there a starting point? If the leafs call and say we're willing to give you a sweetener to take Zaitsev...how sweet does it need to be in your opinion?

Section 50.10 of the cba and the following example provided:

Illustration #4: The Upper Limit in a League Year is $70.0 million. A
Player who has an SPC with an Averaged Amount of $2.0 million
becomes unfit to play on the last day of Training Camp, and on the same
day, his Club exercises the Bona-Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception
on such Player. On Opening Day, the Club has an Averaged Club Salary
of $71.5 million (excluding Earnable Performance Bonuses up to the full
amount of the Performance Bonus Cushion). The Club is deemed to have
already fully replaced the unfit-to-play Player with any Player or Players
on the Opening Day Roster. If these replacements are maintained through
the conclusion of the season, the Club's Averaged Club Salary is $71.5
million, as the Club is permitted to exceed the Upper Limit by $1.5
million because of the Bona-Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception.

Not exactly clear wording...but my interpretation is that the Rangers (or Leafs), can go over the cap ceiling by up to 10% in the offseason...and then slap Horton on LITR to bring them under the ceiling.

The leafs would only need to trade Horton between now and the TDL if they need space to make an addition for this year only (Simmonds, McQuaid, etc.). They haven't put him on LTIR all season because, in doing so, they have to pay likely $3,7m in performance bonuses next year....so he's been $5.3m in dead space on this year's cap....but next year we won't have the problem of performance bonuses so they'll put him on LTIR at the most financially beneficial time without concern for bonuses.

What if having horton on your LTIR in the offseason doesn't impair your ability to go after Panarin?

Avs dont really need bottom pairing Dman, they have similar to slightly better versions of him already in Barberio and Nemeth signed for fractions of the price. What the Avs would want to do that deal woudl be something Leafs probably wouldnt want to do....touch their NHL roster to sweeten the pot with a guy like Hyman or Brown.

Zaitsev Brown for Nemeth Nieto type deal as just a framework

Brown likely needs to be traded anyway...so they might be willing to include him if that gets a deal done... I personally wouldn't have a problem including him in order to move Z out.

Value isn’t there for Detroit

Lol. You need to get out of insurance, dust off your resume and see if Dubas has any openings...

Do you mind giving me your thoughts on what a specific Glendening/Jensen package would cost, in your opinion? Just want to get a general feel

To me, Glendening and Brown are similar type of players.. I prefer LGD over Brown and Brown has a higher cap hit. I also prefer Jensen to Ohziganov. So to me, there is negative net value coming to Detroit between those two player swaps, which is why you added the second - to even the value, which I can appreciate. I do not think a second round pick, however, is not enough to close the value gap for those player swaps. I know LGD and Jensen are not high-end players, but they are core players, important to the culture in Detroit which (artificially) drives up the asking price. I think Detroit would do something around Liljegren, Connor Brown, Ohziganov and a second or third.

Would Toronto even want a guy with Glendening’s contract? My understanding is that they plan to cycle players on their ELC in the bottom six moving forward. Not that $1.8M AAVis a ton of money, but it’s only $300k less than Brown, who seems destined to move this summer because his cap hit is too high.

For me it's more a matter of finding a 4C. I actually prefer Brown to LGD but that's just a matter of opinion. You're right though, ideally I wouldn't want anyone on the 4th line making over $1m especially given the offensive talent we have on our top 3 lines...it's just frustrating for me every time I see the Leafs' 4th line go out there with Gauthier and the wingers are creating scoring chances that just go by the wayside with him there...not that a 4C needs to be great...it would just be nice to see a little more competence there. The reality is that his $675k AAV is his most attractive feature.

I'd guess the leafs would walk away from an ask the includes Liljegren unless there's an impact d-man coming in and/or a major salary being moved out.

Either way...I think it'll be a seller's market this TDL since so many teams are within 3-4pts out of a wildcard and there might only be 3-4 teams truly out of it.