Finally Johnsson is getting some respect lol.... think the leafs will either trade or sign him before rfa status as they have already started negotiating his contract. I would have to think that the leafs would match that deal due to compensation. Move it up to the next bracket and you would probably get him.

Would it not be more lucrative for Johnsson to sign a 1 year deal with the leafs for 3m?

I can see Johnsson ending up in arbitration. We are light on LW but I'm not sure leafs would match that deal....but they would sooner trade him than risk losing him for a 2nd on an offer sheet

As one commmentator put it- the Leafs are the Yankeees of the NHL - they have very,very deep pockets. You think that St Louis can sign away Johnsson AND sign 9 RFAs without consequence? Good luck on that. Leafs could make their lives miserable by pushing up every contract. Now or for infinite years in the future.

He’s right, it’s all fun and games until Vince Dunn costs 6 million on his 2nd contract.

That is

This is why that wouldn't work: if the Leafs overpay Dunn on an offer sheet, the Blues could call the Leafs out on their bluff and loss the player, get the compensation pick(s), and the Leafs would be even further over the cap.

The Blues wouldn’t do that though. I mean, would you rather have the 21 year old defenseman on a 40 point pace or the compensation picks? The point is, offersheets are a dangerous game that isn’t worth playing.

Toronto, Tampa and Winnipeg are in unique spots this summer where they could be susceptible to offersheets.

I understand the analogy of the Leafs being the Yankees, but it’s completely different hockey has a hard cap and baseball doesn’t. Sure TOR could retort by offersheeting Dunn for 6, good for them but that’s a gross overpay on their part. Whether they like it or not they may be victim of an offersheet and there won’t be much they can do about it

I dont think the leafs match

it all depends how much he wants to stay in toronto

the leafs cannot afford to offer sheet players if they have no cap space

we just need to sign people before July 1

Toronto needs to sign everyone before July 1st

Don’t get me wrong I think Johnsson is a good target for a sheet and would be a good fit on the blues. I think the first option would be to trade for him. That’s just how the league works.

The thing is I can’t see that happening and to be honest I think the Marner camp wants an offersheet. Not because he wants to leave Toronto but because offersheets only benefit the player in terms of what they get on the contract

For me it comes down to logic.

I don't think any GM puts out an offersheet where the compensation is 4 first round draft picks for guys like Marner/Point/Rantanen. Between the cap space needed to sign the player away + mortgaging the future....I just don't see many teams being 1-player away to justify that....they MIGHT do it at an AAV they feel the leafs will match...just to squeeze them even more on cap space in order to target another player (the way San Jose did with Hjarlmarsson and Niemi)

And for the Kapanen/Johnsson tier of RFA's....I think the demand to try and acquire these players from a team that's struggling to find the cap space to get the locked up will be so high.....and the RFA compensation so low at a 2nd round pick...that they won't risk waiting until July 1st to try and be the team to MAYBE sign the player to an offer sheet....they'll be on the ringer with Dubas as soon as the season is done to see if there's a trade to be made since they know the best chance of landing them is to beat other GM's to the punch

I dont think Marner gets offersheeted, the compensation after 10.8 million is 4 1st round picks, and anything below that Im sure the leafs match

Love it. The 2nd round comp bracket can get you ReALLY good players. A dual offer sheet off Kapanen and then Johnson can be deadly

Very true. You'd have to convince the players to sign those sheets though, and they generally won't unless (a) they want to move to the other team or (b) the negotiations aren't going well and they can use this as leverage.

Dunn shoots left, the Leafs have no interest.

That’s not the point, offersheeting Dunn would be payback for Johnsson and the Leafs would only be seeking to get Dunn at a high price for the Blues. The Blues would match and screw their cap situation because their is no point in taking picks over a 40 point 21 year old.

Or.... they want to make more money.

And if they didn't match the Leafs would be in a WORSE cap crunch. Trust me, Dunn isn't the hill that Dubas wants to die on.

That's (b).

Memories are long and these are competitive people. i think its picking a fight most teams wouldn’t want to risk. Maybe on a franchise player the risk and penalties are justified - but not for a 2-3 line winger.

Johnsson on a 4 million dollar contract for a 2nd round pick is worth it any day of the week