If Marleau plans to retire after his signing bonus

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Created by: BCAPP

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 30, 2019

Published: Mar. 30, 2019

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I doubt he does but Just want to see the cap in that situation.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Kapanen, Kasperi	6	$3,850,000
Johnsson, Andreas	4	$3,500,000
Ozhiganov, Igor	2	$975,000
Marner, Mitchell	6	$9,616,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Krüger, Marcus		2	$750,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Vet, Some		1	$700,000

Trades

TOR

2020 7th round pick (ARI)

ARI

Marleau, Patrick
2020 4th round pick (TOR)

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Just trading his cap hit. No money has to be paid.

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2019
2020
2021

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,000,000	$82,800,699	$0	$0	$199,301

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Johnsson, Andreas $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston $11,634,000$11,634,000 C UFA - 5	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell $9,616,000$9,616,000 RW UFA - 6
Brown, Connor $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem $4,500,000$4,500,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,850,000$3,850,000 RW UFA - 3
Petan, Nicolas $775,000$775,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Krüger, Marcus $750,000$750,000 C UFA	Moore, Trevor $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 5
Rosén, Calle $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 2	Ozhiganov, Igor $975,000$975,000 RD UFA	Sparks, Garret $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1		Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1
Vet, Some $700,000$700,000

Mar. 30, 2019 at 10:05 p.m.

Booyah

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I feel like Marner is worth more than that

Mar. 30, 2019 at 10:13 p.m.

BCAPP

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Quoting: Booyah

I feel like Marner is worth more than that

I'll adjust a little higher

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Mar. 30, 2019 at 10:15 p.m.

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Quoting: Booyah

I feel like Marner is worth more than that

There. I bumped it up a bit. A hair of cap room for this team

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Mar. 30, 2019 at 10:16 p.m.

Booyah

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He's been a tremendous player this year. And he's been better in the playoffs than Matthews and Nylander

Mar. 30, 2019 at 10:21 p.m.

mikearky

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Because he signed his contract after he was 35, if he retires the contract cap hit goes back to the team he signed with, which is Toronto. The only way he contract would not cost Toronto is if he is carried by the team on the active roster, something Arizona can not do because they have to sign other players. Also, he would have to accept the trade, which if he does win a cup he might not want to do and play one more year with Toronto.

Mar. 31, 2019 at 12:46 a.m.

tomato43

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Quoting: mikearky

Because he signed his contract after he was 35, if he retires the contract cap hit goes back to the team he signed with, which is Toronto.

Where did you read that?

Quoting: mikearky

He would have to accept the trade, which if he does win a cup he might not want to do and play one more year with Toronto

This post assumes he is retiring. I assume he probably won't, but this is a hypothetical.

Mar. 31, 2019 at 4:35 a.m.

BCAPP

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Quoting: mikearky

So the 35+ rule TO MY KNOWLEDGE means the cap hit remains after retirement for a greater than 1 year contract. However, again to my knowledge, the contract can be traded after the retirement and the precedent has been set with Pronger.

Mar. 31, 2019 at 4:35 a.m.

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Quoting: tomato43

Where did you read that?

This post assumes he is retiring. I assume he probably won't, but this is a hypothetical.

Honestly I don't think it's likely either, just wanted to see it

Mar. 31, 2019 at 4:38 a.m.

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Quoting: Booyah

He's been a tremendous player this year. And he's been better in the playoffs than Matthews and Nylander

He was a little worse than Matthews in their first playoffs and significantly better the second.

This contract makes him the highest paid RFA winger of all time and the third highest paid winger behind Ovechkin (generational talent, top 3 or 4 goal scorer of all time), and Patrick Kane (UFA contract).

Whatever Marner gets it should be a little below what Rantanen signs for. Rantanen has significantly more goals than Marner both this year and in the last two years and about the same points this year and significantly more over the last two years.

Mar. 31, 2019 at 5:30 a.m.

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He can be put on LTIR. Every single player in the league can say they could not play due to injury, especially after playoff run and 20yr+ career like Marleau had. I love Patty but I feel like this would be his last season.

Mar. 31, 2019 at 8:45 a.m.

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Quoting: SammyT_51

I don't know if the league would accept ltir for Mr ironman without a real injury

Mar. 31, 2019 at 9:01 a.m.

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I don't know if the league would accept ltir for Mr ironman without a real injury

As I mentioned, every player has injuries so with his age, his knees are likely half gone so that would do it. Maybe his back too.

Mar. 31, 2019 at 1:54 p.m.

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Quoting: SammyT_51

As I mentioned, every player has injuries so with his age, his knees are likely half gone so that would do it. Maybe his back too.

I just don't see it with Marleau. I think if he's done he retires. His contract is built to allow him to do so July 2nd

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