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Pack the D

Created by: slepler
Team: 2019-20 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 25, 2019
Published: May 4, 2019
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Description
Sharks have a ton of good young forwards in the system but maybe only one or two possible impact NHL Dmen (Ferraro, Merkley).

At forward they have:

Alex true, chlemevski, checkovich, blichfeld, gregor, gambrell, Halbgewachs, John Leonard, newly signed Kellman and Yurtaikin, Perron, and others. They are stacked with possible good NHL talent up front.

But a top four D of Burns, Karlsson, Doughty, and Vlasic is kinda funny and I feel it can overcome a thinner forward group that still has Hertl, Cooch, Meier, Pavs, etc.

To me, kane disappears too much, but has good value on the trade market as a 30 goal scorer who brings a physical presence. Labanc has emerged as a top young forward and hurts too lose, but you have to give to get.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
2$3,500,000
2$5,000,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$7,000,000
8$11,100,000
1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (NJD)
  2. 2019 6th round pick (ARI)
  3. 2019 7th round pick (MTL)
  4. 2020 4th round pick (NSH)
2.
SJS
  1. Doughty, Drew
Additional Details:
LA needs to rebuild and get younger. Kane is 27 and Labanc 23, dillon is 28. LA also desperately needs good offense. This gives them two top 6 forwards and a solid middle pair Dman.
LAK
  1. Dillon, Brenden
  2. Kane, Evander
  3. Labanc, Kevin
  4. 2019 3rd round pick (NJD)
  5. 2019 6th round pick (ARI)
  6. 2019 7th round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,000,000$78,845,749$660,750$432,500$4,154,251
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 8
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
UFA - 3
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$776,667$776,667 (Performance Bonus$160,000$160K)
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$736,666$736,666 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
C
UFA - 2
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$763,333$763,333 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$11,100,000$11,100,000
RD
UFA - 8
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$723,333$723,333
G
RFA - 2
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$675,000$675,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$735,000$735,000
LD
UFA - 1

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May 4, 2019 at 1:57 p.m.
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Kyle from Chicago
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I don’t think that nets you Doughty
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May 4, 2019 at 2:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
I don’t think that nets you Doughty


Why not? I think it's a very competitive offer. LA gets a solid replacement in his prime who can eat 20 mins/night no problem. They have a seriously problem up front with just older Kopitar, Kovalchuk, brown etc. They have a serious dearth of prime age top 6 forwards. kane and Labanc add two 50-60 pt players, in their primes at reasonable cap hits. I don't see LA getting a whole lot more than a middle pair Dman, and two top 6 forwards in their primes for doughty.

I dont think this could actually happen because SJ won't trade with LA, but I think the price is very reasonable.
May 4, 2019 at 3:12 p.m.
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"LA needs to rebuild and get younger. "

But you have them sign Joe Thornton and 35 year old Pavelski?
May 4, 2019 at 3:21 p.m.
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Even if LA were to accept, Kane would likely block the trade with his NTC. He's happy in SJ, and its taken a while for him to find a home where he feels comfortable in the locker room.

Also, if you're giving Pavelski 5 years, I think it's fair to say the cap hit will be lower, maybe 6M or 6.5M . I can see it being around 7M for 2 or 3 years though.

I see Braun having positive value @ 3.8M but i dont think you're getting a package of picks like that with Dell or Melker, who may have negative value on their current deals. I hope I'm wrong, Doug Wilson pulled off magic last season with the whole Boedker -> Hoffman -> picks deal, maybe he can do it again.
May 4, 2019 at 3:22 p.m.
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Paying 37 million to 4 dman is not the best idea, especially when only Karlsson is under 30 (and complication to protect them all in expansion draft).
Forward group is weak af, not to mention if you need to resign 4 elc after 2 years, no way they would fit under cap.
May 5, 2019 at 12:26 p.m.
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Paying 37 million to 4 dman is not the best idea, especially when only Karlsson is under 30 (and complication to protect them all in expansion draft).
Forward group is weak af, not to mention if you need to resign 4 elc after 2 years, no way they would fit under cap.


aaahhh, you bring up a great point about the draft... I completely forgot about it, but it's definitely gotta be in the plans... the 7F-3D-1G option is way better than the 8 total option for a team like the sharks.

Resign EK and protect him, burns and pickles. Then they can protect all the forwards the need to and expose a guy like Ryan on the back end or Goodie, Sorensen or the like from the forwards.
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May 5, 2019 at 12:39 p.m.
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Even if LA were to accept, Kane would likely block the trade with his NTC. He's happy in SJ, and its taken a while for him to find a home where he feels comfortable in the locker room.

Also, if you're giving Pavelski 5 years, I think it's fair to say the cap hit will be lower, maybe 6M or 6.5M . I can see it being around 7M for 2 or 3 years though.

I see Braun having positive value @ 3.8M but i dont think you're getting a package of picks like that with Dell or Melker, who may have negative value on their current deals. I hope I'm wrong, Doug Wilson pulled off magic last season with the whole Boedker -> Hoffman -> picks deal, maybe he can do it again.


He could dump melker for a late round pick. and Dell too I think. Neither would land much more than a 5th-7th rounder, but I think there is a market for them. I also think a vet like braun can get at least a 2nd, maybe even a late 1st. Braun is a very desireable add for any team, and dillon would be too. Definitely high value for either.

As for the realism of the doughty trade, it's not. at all. I know that :-) Its just for fun...

I am a firm believer of building a winner from the net out. I also a firm believer of needing just 4 top D in the playoffs. Right now, the sharks have 3 top D. One more and they would be truly set.

They also have a very rich farm up front. Chmelevski is rocking it, 2nd in the OHL in playoff points, and was #1 star for team USA in the gold medal game. Chekhovich looked NHL ready during the preseason last year. He'll be ready this year for sure, whether he makes the team or not. We'll see what blichfeld can do as the #2 scorer in all the CHL, and Noah gregor is 3rd in WHL playoff scoring and had a very strong year. Alex true has the size to play an NHL game and really emerged this year. Gambrell hasnt quite found that spot yet, but he seems to be getting close. Even Francis Perron looked pretty good before his head injury. And, of course, every year, dougie seems to find some junior or Euro FA that steps in and makes an impact (marcus sorenson, melker karlsson, joonas donskoi, barclay goodrow, Tim Heed, lukas radil, etc etc etc... all undrafted FA signings). Its also much easier to acquire forward talent throughout the season. Looks at the players that moved at the deadline: Stone, Duchene, Dzingel, Nyqist, Hayes, Zuccarello, Coyle, hagelin... All top 9 forwards. The only top 4 D who moved near the deadline was Muzzin. All others like del zotto, lovejoy, etc ar much more depth Dmen.

As such, solidifying the D through the next 6 years allows the sharks to focus on developing their young forwards and acquiring at the deadline as needed....
May 5, 2019 at 12:50 p.m.
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"LA needs to rebuild and get younger. "

But you have them sign Joe Thornton and 35 year old Pavelski?


Absolutely. have one or two older vets is ntoa bad thing. LA has all old guys in kopitar, carter, kovy, Brown, etc. They have zero bna fide top 6 forwards under 30. Even my roster has meier and hertl in that category.

I think the ovation last night should tell you all you need to know about resigning pavs. He is the heart and soul of the team, and you cannot let him walk. Not to mention, his style of game which is based on tipping pucks and body positioning wont decay with age at the same pace as a guy like carter whose game is based on speed.

Resigning pavs to lifetime contract is a total no brainer....
May 8, 2019 at 9:37 a.m.
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Why not? I think it's a very competitive offer. LA gets a solid replacement in his prime who can eat 20 mins/night no problem. They have a seriously problem up front with just older Kopitar, Kovalchuk, brown etc. They have a serious dearth of prime age top 6 forwards. kane and Labanc add two 50-60 pt players, in their primes at reasonable cap hits. I don't see LA getting a whole lot more than a middle pair Dman, and two top 6 forwards in their primes for doughty.

I dont think this could actually happen because SJ won't trade with LA, but I think the price is very reasonable.


Rob Blake is not Pierre Dorion. (Even though he barely dodged a deadly bullet in the Pacioretty trade) Unlike Sens and Melnyk, the LAK are not desperately trying to get rid of Doughty, especially after Drew signed that 8 years contract with a full NMC. Besides, that package is not close to the value of Doughty. In fact, that package has less value than what Ottawa got from trading Erik Karlsson. The Sharks would have to give up more than that. It starts with at least..
- the 2021 1st round pick
- Ryan Merkley
- probably another top prospect
May 10, 2019 at 10:51 a.m.
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Rob Blake is not Pierre Dorion. (Even though he barely dodged a deadly bullet in the Pacioretty trade) Unlike Sens and Melnyk, the LAK are not desperately trying to get rid of Doughty, especially after Drew signed that 8 years contract with a full NMC. Besides, that package is not close to the value of Doughty. In fact, that package has less value than what Ottawa got from trading Erik Karlsson. The Sharks would have to give up more than that. It starts with at least..
- the 2021 1st round pick
- Ryan Merkley
- probably another top prospect


Id rather make your deal. Personally, I think Merkley is a likely bust. Not nearly good enough defensively: small, too irresponsible, canot handle the cycle game and makes overly offensive risky reads. He is young and may well round out, but he gets beat regularly by OHL forwards, so NHL forwards will eat him for breakfast.

a 2021 1st (which the sharks may not have anyways) is likely a 20-30th pick that may make the NHL in 2024. Both of these options are worth way less than labanc, a 50-60 pt, 23 year old or Kane. I would love your deal...

Of course, you are right that LA is not going to move doughty. This post was just for fun. No way they trade doughty to their arch rivals.
May 13, 2019 at 6:03 a.m.
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So I realize that this is all a thought exercise, but the idea of Doughty playing literally in a pairing with Burns made me literally cackle like a damn hyena

That said, NO, HARDEST OF NO, to the idea of sending a loaded gun like Labanc to the goddamn KINGS of all teams - the only worse option would be to give him to the bloody Knights!
 
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