Gonna have to give up more than that for Subban.

Thank you for taking the time to post a team. I appreciate the opportunity to offer feedback. A few points as I see it:

1. Subban is a no go for me..... he is so so so so slow and become a defensive liability. His reputation and physical toughness is not worth $9 Million a year for the next 3 years.... Danger Will Robinson Danger!!;

2. Please do not sell low on Will Borgen this kid will develop into a very very good DMan in the NHL. I look forward to him playing with McCabe;

3. I do not think GMBots will look to move on from Thompson..... GMBots will give the kid every opportunity to succeed with the Blue & Gold;

4. I hope you are right about finding a team willing to take on Sobotka but I think the Sabres will have to retain on him in order to get a team to bite;

5. I hope that GMBots could get AA for just a 1st & 3rd that would be a fantastic addition;

6. In relation to Kreider I think the Sabres actually have a solid LW situation I would actually look to grab Namestikov.... though I do not want to move McCabe in the right deal Nylander can be sent packing;

No chance you get Athanasiou for the last pick in the 1st and a 3rd. Just had his best year, 30 goals, and only getting better. He is a big part of DET's new young core.

I like your team and your fans so please don't take this as disrespectful, but don't you need to "tool" first before you can "retool"?

Not sure what the issue is there, but it seems it has been a perpetual rebuild.

I don't feel like they have quite the leverage when they are so desperate to move cap and Subban is at 9M and clearly declining from who he used to be. Still a very good player but not who he once was.

I haven't heard much from a Red Wings perspective on what they believe the plan is under Stevie Y. I've heard some say he would want to tear them down and collect draft picks because they are against the cap already and a bottom team. I've heard others say that only like Larkin is off limits and that AA will price himself out.

There really isn't much to tear down at this point. Its just good young guys and old guys with terrible contracts. If you trade the young guys in order to dump the contracts, you have nothing left (except cap space)

Yzerman is smart, and was patient in putting Tampa together. They can spend 2-3 (maybe 4) years waiting out most of their bad contracts, continuing to let the young guys develop and collect picks, then the core will hit their primes (26-28) right as Detroit's cap space explodes and they can grab some premium FA's and make a real comeback.

Only real question mark for them atm is in goal. No bluechip prospects in net as far as I know. I could see them going hard after Holtby, but not sure how that fits into their timeline.

I wouldn’t say that they’re desperate to move cap. They could move Ellis or Turris or Bonino and be in position to get Duchene if they wanted. I think they need to dump PK and Turris to try for Duchene or a possible offer sheet but poile is one of the smartest general managers in the league he’s not gonna just give away a very good defenseman.